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#149582 Post/member ranking system

Posted by Island Time on 24 February 2015 - 09:38 AM

In an effort to better judge what people think is good content, I have enabled the vote up/vote down ranking system rather than the only positive "like" system. If you like a post, click the green "Up" arrow. If you don't click the red down arrow.


Members and posts consistently achieving very low (especially negative ratings) may have the post removed, and possibly have their posting rights disabled.


What does everyone think of that Idea??



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#149586 Post/member ranking system

Posted by Clipper on 24 February 2015 - 10:12 AM

Sounds awesome - will hopefully formally highlight issues people have with posters (like ones who may have been on the sauce)

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#149446 one down! one to go...

Posted by Clipper on 22 February 2015 - 08:07 AM

Lack of replies means people agree! If they didn't they would reply....like you?

No it doesn't, not by a long long way. Lack of replies is due to lack of desire to engage with you and what rapidly becomes repetitive bullshit. Basically, whether they agree with you or not, people don't care what you think.
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#149136 The Readers who don't post!

Posted by Gypsy Soul on 17 February 2015 - 03:07 PM

OK. You have shamed me into it, so here it is, my first post.


I have been reading this site for years, just never thought that I had too much to offer. Everyone here always seemed more "expert" on any given topic than me. However I had a bit of a thought about that and realised that I got my first sail boat at 12 years old. In a few months the Government will start contributing to my cruising fund, so more that 50 years mucking about in boats.

Not done the ocean miles that some of you have done but 4 passages between Fiji and NZ, 1 between Fiji and Tonga and one Tassie crossing to Bundaberg is probably a reasonable amount.


Love the site, love the "characters" on it. Cant agree with some, but hey, that's life.


There done it; my first post.

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#205491 Heavy weather cruising

Posted by Black Panther on 21 May 2018 - 02:59 PM

I was asked for this in another thread. Flame away.




First this is about cruising, racing is a whole nuther story. And since the majority of long distance cruisers are either couples or short handed that’s what I’ll focus on.

So a few generalised thoughts about cruising in the strong stuff:

Do not be in a hurry. It is often said the most dangerous thing on a boat is a calendar and it is true.

Learn to navigate. The overwhelming majority of boats lost are lost through human error and the vast majority of them through nav error. It is actually quite rare for a boat to be overwhelmed by wind and wave

Which brings up another point: the wind will not hurt you, the waves will. A good example is one of the best days sailing I’ve had was in the Gulf of Tehuantepec. The predominant wind is off the beach at 50kn. For days on end. After a few days waiting I got bored and we left anyway. Storm jib and a deep reef, Solid 45kn plus but 100m off the beach on a beam reach that slowly went aft. Great sail in flat water at full speed.

But the waves normally are associated with the wind so we talk about heavy weather rather than big wave sailing.

Here’s another idle thought. I often hear harbour racers claim they “haven’t reefed in 20 years”. Well at sea you will reef sooner than around the coast because of the sea conditions so if you haven’t reefed in years get out there and start practicing.

The whole point of your tactics should be to preserve the crew in the best condition you can at all times. That will often mean slowing down. There’s nothing wrong with heaving to to do the dishes or cook a meal. At sea you only have the resources contained by your toerail and the most critical are the crew. Take all the time you need to sleep, make sure you poop in the first 24 hrs, eat if you are hungry, never become dehydrated. If you are vulnerable take steps before you leave to deal with seasickness.

So let’s define what we are talking about.

Up to 28 kn winds – normal sailing.

28 – 38kn wind – heavy weather, but easily handled by any well equipped offshore cruiser. You’ll probably have stopped sailing and be sitting it out.

38 – 50kn , this is getting serious and as well as sitting it out you are thinking of special techniques to orient your boat to the waves.

At around 60 kn you are in survival mode and anything over 70 kn is scary as hell and there’s a chance you won’t come home, but taking the right steps earlier will improve your chances.


Downwind the tactics are easy. Drop sail if you are going too fast. Start at the back of the boat, i.e. drop the mizzen, then the main, then the jib. There have been three well reported deaths lately from mainsheets crossing the cockpit. Get the main down early. When you get to bare poles kick the drogue over – more on that later.

Upwind your tactics will be different to downwind. Somewhere around 30kn I stop sailing upwind and heave to. If you haven’t tried this before you will be astounded. I have gone from being beaten bloody at 6kn to thinking I was at the marina when down below. If you get nothing else from this essay, go out and practice heaving to (you can practice in under 30 kn, just use a bit more sail). When hove to have some food and a hot drink and get into your bunk where you can read or sleep. (your bunk will have a secure comfortable lee cloth right?) Stick your head out occasionally to make sure conditions haven’t worsened or that a ship isn’t going to run you down. The worst storm I have been in we were all below and totally unaware that a front had gone through with a 90 deg windshift and a LOT more wind till we woke up on the ceiling.

How do you heave to? The classic was to back the jib against the main. I believe that with nearly all modern boats this won’t work. Old boats had full keels and full forefoots (forefeet?). With a fin feel and a sloop rig the force on the jib will push the bow down until you are fore reaching (bad) or beam on to the seas (very bad). With a modern rig and a cutaway forefoot you can simply drop  the headsail (roll it up if that’s what you have), then pull the traveller to windward and sheet the main in hard. The main will push the bow to weather, but the boat shouldn’t have enough way on to tack , if it does then shorten the main. Lash the helm to leeward (Whatever happened to tiller combs?? I’ll look for a photo, they are cool). The goal is to come to a stop with the apparent wind about 40 -60 off the bow. You’ll probably be slipping sideways at ½ to 1kn, that’s perfect, but you want zero boatspeed.

As I said – learn this. Practice. Next time you are out on the gulf roll up the jib, strap the main in, lash the helm and go have a cup of tea. I can’t emphasize this enough.

As the wind increase and the boat tries to fore reach keep shortening the sail area. Eventually you will have just the trysail strapped to the weather quarter. This should take you up to some seriously strong wind in comfort. In the Cav I had to give up and try the next trick at around 60kn. You could sail around the world three times and never see that.

When you can’t keep the boatspeed off even with that rig it is time to do the next thing. At this point you can turn and run, I would use bare poles and a drogue. This has the advantage of also being my choice of “ultimate survival technique”.

If you really don’t want to go the wrong way, either coz you’re a blockhead or you don’t have sea room a sea anchor might be a better bet. Unfortunately most cruisers don’t have the capacity for both. I choose a drogue. I know others who choose a sea anchor. I have always found the drogue painless to set and retrieve which swings it for me.

I like the Jordan series drogue. The idea is to keep a bit of way on (my best guess about 60% of your theoretical hull speed. This means you can steer a very little bit. But more importantly you take the sting out of the waves. I have never been rolled, broached or pooped while using a drogue. I have been in conditions where we were regularly surfing at


insane speeds (bare poles on a P38) and broaching at the bottom of the waves. After streaming the drogue that just plain stopped. We were able to clean up, have some food and get into our bunks.

So when I joke about climbing into my bunk and putting a pillow over my head it isn’t really a joke. Keep yourself warm, dry, rested and fed. You and your crew are the boats greatest resource so you need to look after yourself.

Don’t be in a hurry to get somewhere.

Study navigation properly (the instructions for your chart plotter don’t count)

Practice heaving to, learn the joy of simply stopping.

One of my favourite stories is of a couple who took 29 days to do a 1,000 mile passage. I asked what took so long. They said they would always heave to at night and sleep, then get up in the morning and decide whether or not to continue sailing, which they did about every second day.

Or the delivery skipper who was presumed dead when 30 days overdue from Gibraltar to the UK. When he eventually turned up he explained that he was disappointed with the boats leaky decks so he hove to after three days and spent 20 days re caulking the deck. Then continued in a dry boat.

Attitude helps.

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#200086 Show us your boat sailing

Posted by geoff-halo on 25 February 2018 - 09:35 PM

In Karori Rip heading home to Wellington.

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#203799 Lady Nada - Our new (to us) boat!

Posted by Adrianp on 26 April 2018 - 04:28 PM

Hi All


Thought its about time to our new (to us) boat, Lady Nada, a Lavranos 44 sailing cat. She's a homebuilt foam and glass cat that was built in Port Waikato in 2007 and we're her third owners as of 6 weeks ago. She's had a busy life with 5 trips to the islands in her life already.


Its been a busy 6 weeks as we brought her on the hard in Whangarei and have been flat out getting her sorted to head off to the islands this winter. We relaunched her just before Easter and having to trying to use her as much as possible since then. Having her 10min away from home at Bayswater Marina is much better that 2hrs to Whangarei!


Our plan is to head off to Tonga in early June, so its a pretty rushed program to get the boat ready but being such a well travelled boat, its just a case of "fix whats broken and make sure everything works" rather than taking on any "improvement projects".  


Our blog is here if anyone is interested - https://sailingladynada.wordpress.com/



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#202862 And so it begins

Posted by Chrisc on 11 April 2018 - 03:32 PM

In a couple of days The Keeper of the Purse and I are off to Holland to begin what we suspect to be the final chapter of our not very illustrious boating career.

We have a short-list of 11 - 12m motor cruisers to look at from which we will select one with the intention going forward of spending 6 months in NZ and 6 months on the inland waterways of Europe, mainly in France.

We are looking forward to it very much but I would be telling big porkies if I said it was not without a considerable degree of trepidation, I don't know why, but I expect its an old age thing. This canal boating business has been an on again off again affair, mainly off again, for the last few years because we kept running into what appeared to be insurmountable problems. As a minor example, a roaming cellphone is just too expensive for 6 month so we thought to buy a plan from a cellphone services provider in Europe. But in order to sign up with a cellphone network you need a bank account. And in order to open a bank account you need a permanent address. And in order to have a permanent address you need to be registered with the local council, and in order to register you need to have permanent residence status... etc.etc. You get the picture. And everything is like that.

But thankfully the Keeper of the Purse, time to reveal her real name, Joke (truly) made an executive decision committing us to the project and over the last weeks has spent literally hundreds of hours on the computer reducing beauracratic mountains to molehills in a truly incredible display of unrelenting tenacity, helped no doubt by the fact that she is Dutch, multi lingual and very stubborn. I always knew that my investment in her would pay off one day, although my involvement with the Dutch is a family affair. For many years my ancestors used to go viking down the coast of Holland, pillaging and carrying off the women although in my case I didn't steal anything and I did invite her nicely aboard my ship to go sailing.

So thanks to Joke, we think we know enough to get this business up and running. I have completed my CEVNI which seems to be a requirement for operating a boat on the inland waterways, I have upgraded my vhf license to the MSROC standard and I have my ICC for inland and coastal waters. I am not sure if all this studying was required but Joke made me do it. If there's one thing that annoys me about Joke, actually there'd lot of things that annoy me about Joke but her being a real stickler for doing things properly is right up there near the top of the list. So, needed or not, we are all systems go.

And finally, I need to acknowledge the invaluable help I have received on this forum, particularly with my interminable questions relating to diesel engines, gearboxes etc as we struggle to make the transition from a real boat to a mechanically propelled one. And in regard to help received I am particularly indebted to Matt aka Island Time for providing me with a motor boat and crew in which to do the practical elements of the ICC exam.

As a future motor boater I am probably continuing on this sailing forum under false pretenses, but neither do I want to go - you're and oddball lot but I feel very much at home here so I guess I must be one too. So if you see any value in it, I would like to contribute the odd post and pictures of canal life as it happens now and then, good, bad, warts and all.


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#199021 IOR boats and the death roll

Posted by Priscilla II on 03 February 2018 - 07:05 AM

From SA

From Fritz Kloepfel:

In the late 1980s, I was just getting serious about my love affair with racing sailboats. At an early Key West Race Week I met an interesting character named Larry Ruhland. He was unlike anyone I knew, but he was passionate about racing sailboats. Over the course of the week we became friends and over the next couple years, I invited him to come sail with me in Florida several times. And he did! Eventually, he invited me to come race in the Great Lakes aboard his boat, Dolphin. She was a fabulous old racing boat 54 feet long, with a mast reaching over 80 feet in the air. Big and solidly built, she required a talented crew to show her best. The crew was mostly Larry’s two sons and their friends and relatives. It was an interesting mix of backgrounds and talents, but they made a formidable team.

Larry’s two sons could not have been more different.

Mike was serious, studious and very focused. His hair was trimmed short and his dress was near formal. And he was analytical. Very, very analytical. He was enthralled with technology, information, and calculations. A bit of time spent with Mike could leave you believing that it was possible to THINK your way across the finish line first. And Mike was just the guy to do it. I felt an immediate kinship with him.

Pat was much the opposite. Casually dressed and very casually coiffed, he seemed to care little about the instruments, the technology or the details of strategy and tactics. On our first meeting, he was introduced to me as “Turbo,” a nickname that apparently reached back to his childhood where his mother used to wonder if he were turbocharged as he played around the house. But to me, he seemed the very embodiment of “laid back.” A yin to his brother’s yang.

The Dolphin was a demanding boat, and over the course of the first day and a half, we all took turns driving, spinning the “coffee grinders” to power the winches, and tailing the heavy lines that trimmed the sails. The crew all pitched in. Except for Turbo. Yes, he lent a hand in here and there, but he hadn’t taken the wheel that whole time and had not seemed to contribute much. I had started to wonder, to myself, why we had brought him along. But as it was starting to make me scratch my head the boat began to demand more of us. Well into the second day the wind was building and with it the waves. We were sailing downwind with a big running spinnaker up, and the boat was becoming a handful. The waves would get under the back of the boat and make it skew left or right, and the heavy winds in the sails had us rocking and rolling nearly out of control. The big wheel really needed to be manhandled to keep the boat standing up, and most of the crew were not quite skilled enough to keep it all managed. And, it was a workout. 20 minutes would wear you out, and 30 minutes was all anyone could do. We began to talk about reducing sail and slowing the boat, …not the solution you want when you’re racing. But the wind continued to build, and the waves looked like mountains.

Just when I thought we had no other choice Larry hollered out one word. “Turbo!!!”

And out of the bowels of the boat came Pat. He walked straight to the back of the boat, and without a word he took the wheel. And as though someone had waved a magic wand the boat stopped bucking and jumping. It stopped skidding left and right and pitching like a rodeo bull. Suddenly we were on a straight course, and using the waves to surf the boat along, instead of fighting us. I was flabbergasted. I sat there for some time just watching Turbo drive. I’d never seen anything like it. He seemed at one with the wind and the waves and a veritable part of the boat. Every motion was smooth, and he made it all look effortless. Without my ever voicing the question, Larry leaned over and said, “Now you know.”

Turbo stayed at the wheel for hours, occasionally steering with one hand while he lit a cigarette with the other. He didn’t swivel his head to see the waves. He simply seemed to know where they were coming from. He didn’t fight the boat. He seemed to caress it. The wind was not his opponent, it was his strength. I had never seen it done better, and in all my years of sailing, I never did. Eventually, the wind eased and the waves began to subside, and as the boat once again became controllable (by mere mortals) Pat quietly said, “Anybody want this?” and it was over.
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#195282 This Weekend's Achievements

Posted by Vorpal Blade on 12 November 2017 - 05:01 PM

Got 10 boats towed back into the environment before 10:30 this morning, waited until tide came in, floated off the cradle and went to the mooring only to find it had become an ecosystem all of its own in the last 5 months - there was so much weed growing on it I couldn't pull it up. After an hour of cutting/slashing I made it through to the bridle. 

Here we all are sitting on cradles waiting for the tide to come in....

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#177150 Sailing blog

Posted by Kiwifish on 18 December 2016 - 07:59 AM

BP we went out yesterday, saw a big black yacht and climbed aboard, got yelled at by about 40 screaming school kids!!!!!

I said "I just want to have a shower" as the angry mob threatened violence and chased me off their boat!!!!!

Your boat is called "spirit of New Zealand" isn't it??
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#176888 Kaikoura Wharf.

Posted by Chrisc on 15 December 2016 - 08:02 AM

[quote name="motorbike" post="176870" timestamp="1481735645"]I reckon he'll be just fine, and if you think about it life is for living. This weekend I will be visiting the old folks home which is sadly pretty much a warehouse where younger people put the oldies so life in the 'burbs can continue without having to look after them. Much rather die getting smashed to bits on a lonely grey sea doing the thing I love than sucking porridge through a straw.[/quotaa solo]
Darned right!
I got to be 70 a couple of years ago now and all my life I've wanted to fly, not in Mr. Boeing's finely engineered product but in something a bit more minimalist. I want to get myself a hang glider and I figure now's a good time. My family of course view this with some consternation because of its possible adverse consequences but recognise somewhat reluctantly that I have the right to pursue my dreams.
Therefore I am very strongly in favour of freedom of choice for the individual and I support Shane's right to conduct his voyage as he sees fit, but we must accept thay there may be consequences for all of us. You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.
We live in a state that 'knows what's best for us' and is determined to protect us from our own percieved silliness by various knee jerk reactions in order to save us from ourselves.
We are surrounded by examples of this, the compulsory wearing of lifejackets being one that affects us directly.
Members will recall that some months ago an elderly gentleman in the South Island was prevented by the authorities from making a solo ocean passage on a variety of pretexts and more recently the voyage of Darius DeWit was interfered with by MNZ who also impounded his vessel due to the lack of what they considered to be his experience and the required safety equipment.
So it would be fair to say that nautical activities are under the spotlight by the do-gooders who I suspect are just itching to legislate the crap out of us.
Go safely Shane. Don't give anyone any reason to mess with us.
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#158374 2015 Coastal Classic Race Stories

Posted by Tim C on 29 October 2015 - 06:59 PM

Pulse xtc in the PIC Coastal Classic 2015.


We got a good right hand side start, but conservatively didn’t put an extra on, thinking it was going to be a long uphill race, and we didn’t want the sail on the tramp. After North head we were quickly on a powered up two sail reach, Pulse feeling powered up and fast. Ben on the mainsheet, Kushila trimming the jib, and me picking the line between boats. By Tiri passage we felt like we were amongst good company, with lots of big black sails around us.

Kawau Island went past in two and a half hours; a much better time than we expected with the breeze being slightly more Westerly than forecast.

But by Omaha Bay the breeze swung around on the nose, and felt shifty and unstable. We tacked in on every shift to stay lift close to the shore. We had three Open 8.5s around us, and Pulse was going well upwind in the light against them, much to every ones surprise!

Just off Whangarei the breeze went Westerly again, and we were reaching straight into the Northerly chop, crashing through the waves. Eventually we got the screacher up, but no sooner than that happened and it had to come down again.

It was great to have some nice hot food, and coffees and soups through the night. Have to feel sorry for the boats not taking cookers!

Nighttime was like a semi blind folded game of chess. Really a beautiful night, with the moon glowing through the Mylar sails, and dolphins occasionally playing in the bow waves.

Mostly our tactics went well, but one tack into shore at the wrong time, straight into a hole in the breeze, and it looked like the whole local fleet sailed past.

By dawn the wind had increased, and we were down to staysail and one reef, crashing into the choppy seas. As the light increased, I realised all was not well with our mainsail; the head was not attached to the car. So off Whangamumu down came the mainsail. We realised it was just the webbing, so a quick re lashing and we were back sailing. But not long after it happened again. On dropping the main we could see the alloy top car had broken. Sail slug had to be dropped out of the mast track, the head car exchanged, lashed again to the head ring and re hoisted. A fair loss of sense of humour by the skipper by this time.

We headed out to sea on port with the rain setting in and the North Island disappearing in the murk, while expecting the strong Northerly change. Not wanting to sheet the main on for fear of damage, we took it gently, but the wind built for us to perhaps 35 knots. So we changed right down to three reefs and storm jib. Tacking back in we still weren’t laying the Brett, and the wind started easing. So the jibs were changed again, and two of the main sail reefs shaken out.

Past Piercy Island at 1200, which meant two hours to the finish cut off. Sheeted on the tight reach we were only doing five knots, and needed to be doing eight. So I figured the safest place for the damaged head car was at the top of the mast, supported by the halyard. So up went the mainsail to the top of the mast. Past Whale rock and the wind freed and increased. We all were concentrating hard to trim and get the best speed from the boat, as we counted down the time on distance, which was very marginal. But a fast reach saw us close the finish with all of eight minuted to spare. It was great to hear the cheering from the finish boat, and horns sounding ashore!

After 28 hours of racing, it was great to get out of the wet gear, have a quick drink, and go to bed for a couple of hours!

Thanks again to my great crew of Kushila and Ben, a splendid effort to get us across the finish line.

Thanks also to the organisers at NZMYC for putting together a very well organised race. Watching the tracker later was fascinating. Thanks too to PIC insurance, and Musto for the great prizes!

I wouldn’t have said so on Sunday, but roll on next years race!

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#158304 2015 Coastal Classic Race Stories

Posted by Puff on 27 October 2015 - 09:35 PM

Sundreamer's Race


Sundreamer last sailed the Coastal Classic in 2010 having been moved to Whitianga in May that year. She sat there pretty much unused for 5 years and while not deteriorating as such, lack of use was starting to show. In the meantime I sat out 2 Coastals doing race work as the HSBC sponsorship had come to an end and we needed all hands to the tools. Then 2 years racing Wild Oats to a 3rd and 4th online and 2nd and 1st on hcp in division. Just before Christmas last year I decided I'd had enough of leaner sailing and decided to bring Sundreamer back to Auckland. It took a fair chunk of the Christmas break to put her back together and then she returned to Auckland in February. We did a few races testing limits and introducing my Wild Oats crew to multihull sailing. A few broken tired halyards and some sail work was needed (thanks Radar and Evolution) and a good haulout saw her all fit for Coastal.


We got to the start early and watched the other fleets get away. Decided to go for the Code0 as it is on a fuller and would make the transition to #Genoa easy. Got a great start and gave North Head a good clearance. All was sweet, we sat alongside Giacomo equalling her in pace to Rangi Light until it lightened and she pulled away. All was straight forward to Kawau.


Then a wind shear arrived which saw boats only a few metres apart separate into 2 fleets. Charleston, Taeping, Sundreamer and BeauGest got lifts up and past Cape Rodney. Giacomo and Dragon got forced out to Little Barrier. You can see this in Photo 1


The 4 of us continued to lift up towards Bream Tail until it got light and BeauGest and Us decided to peel out to sea before Sail Rock. We had already gone to a small reacher and then the #2 jib. Charleston ahead Taeping and KiaKaha worked the light shifts up towards Whangarei, the little boat able to keep moving best. Photo 2 shows the paths of inshore and offshore boats.


We came together again at Whangarei heads, Charleston and Giacomo locked together ahead where they remained until the end. Taeping, BeauGest Kiakaha and us a long way back after quite different paths.


From there to Cape Bret it was a matter of picking shifts and staying between the light wind, flat water of the inshore and the windier/rougher conditions out to sea. We short tacked up the middle. Taeping and BeauGest took bolder paths and both came unstuck. First BeauGest (Photo3) and then Taeping (Photo4)

We rounded Cape Brett with BeauGest just behind but they rolled us across to Red Head in the light. Taeping was well astern but still dangerous.


After Red Head the breeze built and in Sundreamers sweet spot we took off, rounding Tapeka well ahead of both. We set the Code0 for the run to the finish. The Gennaker would have been better and BeauGest closed up but was never going to catch us.


The conditions suited us and we can only count ourselves lucky in that respect. These condition only come around ever 7 years or so.  Light or running conditions would see us struggle. We carried full main throughout. Broke nothing had no moments. Sail selection was fine and if we had to sail it again would not have changed anything. The crew transitioned fine from the 930 and we had a couple of experienced hands on board. 


And we were first NZ built boat, by a long way. Maybe someone needs to come up with a prize for first NZ built or designed (or both). As my French crewman pointed out, the first 3 yachts were French and the 4th had a French Chef :-)


Here are the pics. Charleston is Yellow, Taeping Green, Sundreamer Red, BeauGest Light Blue, KiaKaha Brown, Dragon Green, Giacomo Dark Blue

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#149739 Dean will be around a while yet.

Posted by Island Time on 27 February 2015 - 08:28 AM

Back on topic. On the Radio and TV this morning, Dean says he is out of ETNZ.


While I do not dispute the fact that he has had his go, and it is time for him to move on, the way in which this has been handled by ETNZ management is, IMO, abysmal. A year 1 management student would have got this done more professionally.


I feel sorry for Dean, and I'd now like to see him campaign for Olympics or a World Champs, off his own bat.


I also feel that the loss of Dean, possibly to another team, is a big mistake for ETNZ, because of his knowledge of the team and experience. ETNZ may regret this in the future. - And their "offer" to Dean is a joke - how could he possibly accept that in these circumstances? I'd be surprised if Dalton and Barker ever work together again. 


Dalton has dropped another peg in my estimation, and I'm very surprised that Sir Steven Tindal has allowed this to happen.

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#149573 Dean will be around a while yet.

Posted by Island Time on 24 February 2015 - 08:39 AM

Calm down guys, Ketchup is gone. 180 days revocation of posting rights.

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#208951 Sailor in liferaft off Norfolk

Posted by Steve Pope on 27 July 2018 - 10:26 AM

The rescue is a different issue, as has been explained on this forum many times over the years the search and rescue is an obligation that NZ has as part of an international agreement. The hours spent in the air are spent whether looking for a distressed yacht or just flying over Minerva reef quizzing every yacht by VHF as to their intentions. (are you heading for NZ). It is considered acceptable practice for Sub hunting. The cost for flying time was already allocated, just used in a humanitarian way, rather than a military one.

Every Cat 1 inspector is doing what they think is best. Some are more flexible than others, some are, as she is written so it shall be. 1 or 2 have lost more masts than most of us put together. They all have their pet axes to grind, Cat 1 is at this stage an advisory, though it appears to be morphing into a, thou shalt.

Kevin, your taxes are always going to be spent without your personal approval , fools and ignorant people are with us, like it or not, most make it through. If this guy was a fool he was pretty well organised, Should it have happened, no, but it did. Into the life raft, grab bag at the ready, epirb on etc. a good result.


I'm pretty stunned by your comments Steve Pope and have to agree with Saturday here. Do you think we shouldn't have car safety rules too? Seat belts? Blood alcohol limits? I'm sick of my taxes paying for the ignorant or the fools.

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#201555 Conflict of Interest

Posted by Dambo on 23 March 2018 - 12:11 PM

My lunchbreak has turned into a rant.  Hmmm.  Clearly not happy  :razz:  :roll:


As someone who has worked in the public, mental health sector for a wee while...;


I work in a sector that was favoured by JK and actually received more funding during the Nats time - certainly that was true in that more positions were funded, however the DHB resource funding wasn't, it was cut. 

So we had more people trying to do more with less.  Basic stuff like enough cars to travel out and visit clients who weren't able to come into a clinic - and if they did make it in, chances were that we couldn't find a room, let alone a room that had clean furniture and didn't have water running down the walls.


But it's all the little things that some may call privileges, that actually make a difference when you're the one supporting multiple people who're telling you about how they want to kill themselves, how the justice system sucks and who're being beaten by their substance abusing partner/parent/family (and that CYF now MVCOT don't want to know about because they are also over-worked and under-funded)


Little things such as having actual coffee in the lunch room (that doesn't leak) and a clean toilet.  When the resources funding is cut and the DHB stops buying real coffee and employs a cheaper cleaning company who don't come every day,.. it's actually really hard to maintain moral.   


One tries to extract some work-place satisfaction out of supporting unhappy people to build a better life, but we actually need something more than our meager salaries to do our job effectively.  I have watched too many people become burnt out husks and I seriously wonder about their effectiveness - I mean, if I was struggling to see value in life and my MH clinician was some dreary, tired sad-sack, then what f**king hope is there?


We do our job out of some bizarre belief that supporting those at the bottom of the heap to at least maintain some sense of dignity, but ideally to flourish, will make the world a better place for everyone. Very egalitarian and virtuous. But the rewards are few and far between.


We're expected to perform and meet KPI's that have absolutely nothing to do with our job.  With people.  This came about when the health system was changed to market based BS.  The idea that the health system would miraculously become more 'efficient' if it operated as a business competing for funding (which was slowly cut back).  1993.  National (second term Bolger govt if my memory serves me correctly) 


Now is it just me, or does it seem a little sick in the head to try and base a business on peoples sickness? 


But this is what privatization is about and how it's done. The systematic defunding and demoralising of the public system is the stealth model that has been utilised by (primarily) right-wing governments throughout the world.  Eventually the govt turns around with the great steaming dog-turd and says "the private sector know more about making things run" and Joe Public says "please just make it better".


But you know what?  It doesn't f**king work.  Because the private sector is about making money.  Those who're fit and healthy enough to pay the higher premiums keep the top end of the sector afloat and profitable. However the moment you introduce the lower two-thirds of the general public, it simply doesn't make money - it looses money. 


Ironically, the countries that invest heavily in public health and education, tend to have higher GDP and higher standard of living.  And greater equity. And higher taxes - but if that's what it takes to have a more functional populous - who cares. 


We could extend this into the prison system.  As someone who also works within that system as well, privatisation is definitely not the answer. 


I'm not some poor prisoner, he's misunderstood type, believe me.  However most of the the people in prison are a direct result of a lack of investment in 'the people'.  They generally come from the shittest backgrounds with the least resources.  And I defy anyone who tries to tell me that we live in a world of equal opportunity - because we have a solidly embedded class system that is based on race, income, neighborhood, school, etc. Perhaps 'Hemi' would have done very well and been a surgeon or an engineer, had he grown up in an environment that fostered the belief that this was a pathway for him, but he didn't, he grew up in a poor family with substance abuse problems and attended a school that had a negative racial bias (as I write this, I can think of more than a few schools in Akl that this is true for - I know because I work in them and see and hear it with my own eyes) therefore, 'Hemi' never saw academic or business achievement as an option. He sees himself as at the bottom of the heap... and the cycle repeats.  This is the reality of how NZ works.  This is why we need to have a fully funded public health system (and education and prison and environment and all the other things)


And this is why I also think that Coleman and his ilk should be put against the wall.  


The point is: we have had cut back after cut back that started after national came into power and Coleman, as the Health Minister, oversaw this systematic defunding and decrepitude of the public system, has now gone to work for the competition.  

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#177209 rescue off kaikoura

Posted by John B on 19 December 2016 - 08:32 AM

As for Shane ,... it seems like a very short while ago it was all about how to get a trailer sailer from Coromandel to Barrier, now its up and down the coast and a Cook Straight crossing.... all the way to the land of the giant flightless bird, and a new boat 

 Crew .org should adopt  'im as our mascot, he's living the life while people like me sit at a desk in an industrial area of Auckland .  For 3 more days anyway.

Have a great Christmas Shane .

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#149554 Dean will be around a while yet.

Posted by Black Panther on 23 February 2015 - 09:41 PM

My daughter just made the comment that it is hardly fair to blame DB for TNZ losing when the other boat was 3-5 kn  faster - it wouldn't have mattered who was driving.

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