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#149582 Post/member ranking system

Posted by island time on 24 February 2015 - 09:38 AM

In an effort to better judge what people think is good content, I have enabled the vote up/vote down ranking system rather than the only positive "like" system. If you like a post, click the green "Up" arrow. If you don't click the red down arrow.


Members and posts consistently achieving very low (especially negative ratings) may have the post removed, and possibly have their posting rights disabled.


What does everyone think of that Idea??



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#149586 Post/member ranking system

Posted by Clipper on 24 February 2015 - 10:12 AM

Sounds awesome - will hopefully formally highlight issues people have with posters (like ones who may have been on the sauce)

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#149446 one down! one to go...

Posted by Clipper on 22 February 2015 - 08:07 AM

Lack of replies means people agree! If they didn't they would reply....like you?

No it doesn't, not by a long long way. Lack of replies is due to lack of desire to engage with you and what rapidly becomes repetitive bullshit. Basically, whether they agree with you or not, people don't care what you think.
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#149136 The Readers who don't post!

Posted by Gypsy Soul on 17 February 2015 - 03:07 PM

OK. You have shamed me into it, so here it is, my first post.


I have been reading this site for years, just never thought that I had too much to offer. Everyone here always seemed more "expert" on any given topic than me. However I had a bit of a thought about that and realised that I got my first sail boat at 12 years old. In a few months the Government will start contributing to my cruising fund, so more that 50 years mucking about in boats.

Not done the ocean miles that some of you have done but 4 passages between Fiji and NZ, 1 between Fiji and Tonga and one Tassie crossing to Bundaberg is probably a reasonable amount.


Love the site, love the "characters" on it. Cant agree with some, but hey, that's life.


There done it; my first post.

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#195282 This Weekend's Achievements

Posted by Vorpal Blade on 12 November 2017 - 05:01 PM

Got 10 boats towed back into the environment before 10:30 this morning, waited until tide came in, floated off the cradle and went to the mooring only to find it had become an ecosystem all of its own in the last 5 months - there was so much weed growing on it I couldn't pull it up. After an hour of cutting/slashing I made it through to the bridle. 

Here we all are sitting on cradles waiting for the tide to come in....

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#177150 Sailing blog

Posted by Kiwifish on 18 December 2016 - 07:59 AM

BP we went out yesterday, saw a big black yacht and climbed aboard, got yelled at by about 40 screaming school kids!!!!!

I said "I just want to have a shower" as the angry mob threatened violence and chased me off their boat!!!!!

Your boat is called "spirit of New Zealand" isn't it??
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#176888 Kaikoura Wharf.

Posted by Chrisc on 15 December 2016 - 08:02 AM

[quote name="motorbike" post="176870" timestamp="1481735645"]I reckon he'll be just fine, and if you think about it life is for living. This weekend I will be visiting the old folks home which is sadly pretty much a warehouse where younger people put the oldies so life in the 'burbs can continue without having to look after them. Much rather die getting smashed to bits on a lonely grey sea doing the thing I love than sucking porridge through a straw.[/quotaa solo]
Darned right!
I got to be 70 a couple of years ago now and all my life I've wanted to fly, not in Mr. Boeing's finely engineered product but in something a bit more minimalist. I want to get myself a hang glider and I figure now's a good time. My family of course view this with some consternation because of its possible adverse consequences but recognise somewhat reluctantly that I have the right to pursue my dreams.
Therefore I am very strongly in favour of freedom of choice for the individual and I support Shane's right to conduct his voyage as he sees fit, but we must accept thay there may be consequences for all of us. You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.
We live in a state that 'knows what's best for us' and is determined to protect us from our own percieved silliness by various knee jerk reactions in order to save us from ourselves.
We are surrounded by examples of this, the compulsory wearing of lifejackets being one that affects us directly.
Members will recall that some months ago an elderly gentleman in the South Island was prevented by the authorities from making a solo ocean passage on a variety of pretexts and more recently the voyage of Darius DeWit was interfered with by MNZ who also impounded his vessel due to the lack of what they considered to be his experience and the required safety equipment.
So it would be fair to say that nautical activities are under the spotlight by the do-gooders who I suspect are just itching to legislate the crap out of us.
Go safely Shane. Don't give anyone any reason to mess with us.
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#158374 2015 Coastal Classic Race Stories

Posted by Tim C on 29 October 2015 - 06:59 PM

Pulse xtc in the PIC Coastal Classic 2015.


We got a good right hand side start, but conservatively didn’t put an extra on, thinking it was going to be a long uphill race, and we didn’t want the sail on the tramp. After North head we were quickly on a powered up two sail reach, Pulse feeling powered up and fast. Ben on the mainsheet, Kushila trimming the jib, and me picking the line between boats. By Tiri passage we felt like we were amongst good company, with lots of big black sails around us.

Kawau Island went past in two and a half hours; a much better time than we expected with the breeze being slightly more Westerly than forecast.

But by Omaha Bay the breeze swung around on the nose, and felt shifty and unstable. We tacked in on every shift to stay lift close to the shore. We had three Open 8.5s around us, and Pulse was going well upwind in the light against them, much to every ones surprise!

Just off Whangarei the breeze went Westerly again, and we were reaching straight into the Northerly chop, crashing through the waves. Eventually we got the screacher up, but no sooner than that happened and it had to come down again.

It was great to have some nice hot food, and coffees and soups through the night. Have to feel sorry for the boats not taking cookers!

Nighttime was like a semi blind folded game of chess. Really a beautiful night, with the moon glowing through the Mylar sails, and dolphins occasionally playing in the bow waves.

Mostly our tactics went well, but one tack into shore at the wrong time, straight into a hole in the breeze, and it looked like the whole local fleet sailed past.

By dawn the wind had increased, and we were down to staysail and one reef, crashing into the choppy seas. As the light increased, I realised all was not well with our mainsail; the head was not attached to the car. So off Whangamumu down came the mainsail. We realised it was just the webbing, so a quick re lashing and we were back sailing. But not long after it happened again. On dropping the main we could see the alloy top car had broken. Sail slug had to be dropped out of the mast track, the head car exchanged, lashed again to the head ring and re hoisted. A fair loss of sense of humour by the skipper by this time.

We headed out to sea on port with the rain setting in and the North Island disappearing in the murk, while expecting the strong Northerly change. Not wanting to sheet the main on for fear of damage, we took it gently, but the wind built for us to perhaps 35 knots. So we changed right down to three reefs and storm jib. Tacking back in we still weren’t laying the Brett, and the wind started easing. So the jibs were changed again, and two of the main sail reefs shaken out.

Past Piercy Island at 1200, which meant two hours to the finish cut off. Sheeted on the tight reach we were only doing five knots, and needed to be doing eight. So I figured the safest place for the damaged head car was at the top of the mast, supported by the halyard. So up went the mainsail to the top of the mast. Past Whale rock and the wind freed and increased. We all were concentrating hard to trim and get the best speed from the boat, as we counted down the time on distance, which was very marginal. But a fast reach saw us close the finish with all of eight minuted to spare. It was great to hear the cheering from the finish boat, and horns sounding ashore!

After 28 hours of racing, it was great to get out of the wet gear, have a quick drink, and go to bed for a couple of hours!

Thanks again to my great crew of Kushila and Ben, a splendid effort to get us across the finish line.

Thanks also to the organisers at NZMYC for putting together a very well organised race. Watching the tracker later was fascinating. Thanks too to PIC insurance, and Musto for the great prizes!

I wouldn’t have said so on Sunday, but roll on next years race!

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#158304 2015 Coastal Classic Race Stories

Posted by Puff on 27 October 2015 - 09:35 PM

Sundreamer's Race


Sundreamer last sailed the Coastal Classic in 2010 having been moved to Whitianga in May that year. She sat there pretty much unused for 5 years and while not deteriorating as such, lack of use was starting to show. In the meantime I sat out 2 Coastals doing race work as the HSBC sponsorship had come to an end and we needed all hands to the tools. Then 2 years racing Wild Oats to a 3rd and 4th online and 2nd and 1st on hcp in division. Just before Christmas last year I decided I'd had enough of leaner sailing and decided to bring Sundreamer back to Auckland. It took a fair chunk of the Christmas break to put her back together and then she returned to Auckland in February. We did a few races testing limits and introducing my Wild Oats crew to multihull sailing. A few broken tired halyards and some sail work was needed (thanks Radar and Evolution) and a good haulout saw her all fit for Coastal.


We got to the start early and watched the other fleets get away. Decided to go for the Code0 as it is on a fuller and would make the transition to #Genoa easy. Got a great start and gave North Head a good clearance. All was sweet, we sat alongside Giacomo equalling her in pace to Rangi Light until it lightened and she pulled away. All was straight forward to Kawau.


Then a wind shear arrived which saw boats only a few metres apart separate into 2 fleets. Charleston, Taeping, Sundreamer and BeauGest got lifts up and past Cape Rodney. Giacomo and Dragon got forced out to Little Barrier. You can see this in Photo 1


The 4 of us continued to lift up towards Bream Tail until it got light and BeauGest and Us decided to peel out to sea before Sail Rock. We had already gone to a small reacher and then the #2 jib. Charleston ahead Taeping and KiaKaha worked the light shifts up towards Whangarei, the little boat able to keep moving best. Photo 2 shows the paths of inshore and offshore boats.


We came together again at Whangarei heads, Charleston and Giacomo locked together ahead where they remained until the end. Taeping, BeauGest Kiakaha and us a long way back after quite different paths.


From there to Cape Bret it was a matter of picking shifts and staying between the light wind, flat water of the inshore and the windier/rougher conditions out to sea. We short tacked up the middle. Taeping and BeauGest took bolder paths and both came unstuck. First BeauGest (Photo3) and then Taeping (Photo4)

We rounded Cape Brett with BeauGest just behind but they rolled us across to Red Head in the light. Taeping was well astern but still dangerous.


After Red Head the breeze built and in Sundreamers sweet spot we took off, rounding Tapeka well ahead of both. We set the Code0 for the run to the finish. The Gennaker would have been better and BeauGest closed up but was never going to catch us.


The conditions suited us and we can only count ourselves lucky in that respect. These condition only come around ever 7 years or so.  Light or running conditions would see us struggle. We carried full main throughout. Broke nothing had no moments. Sail selection was fine and if we had to sail it again would not have changed anything. The crew transitioned fine from the 930 and we had a couple of experienced hands on board. 


And we were first NZ built boat, by a long way. Maybe someone needs to come up with a prize for first NZ built or designed (or both). As my French crewman pointed out, the first 3 yachts were French and the 4th had a French Chef :-)


Here are the pics. Charleston is Yellow, Taeping Green, Sundreamer Red, BeauGest Light Blue, KiaKaha Brown, Dragon Green, Giacomo Dark Blue

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#149739 Dean will be around a while yet.

Posted by island time on 27 February 2015 - 08:28 AM

Back on topic. On the Radio and TV this morning, Dean says he is out of ETNZ.


While I do not dispute the fact that he has had his go, and it is time for him to move on, the way in which this has been handled by ETNZ management is, IMO, abysmal. A year 1 management student would have got this done more professionally.


I feel sorry for Dean, and I'd now like to see him campaign for Olympics or a World Champs, off his own bat.


I also feel that the loss of Dean, possibly to another team, is a big mistake for ETNZ, because of his knowledge of the team and experience. ETNZ may regret this in the future. - And their "offer" to Dean is a joke - how could he possibly accept that in these circumstances? I'd be surprised if Dalton and Barker ever work together again. 


Dalton has dropped another peg in my estimation, and I'm very surprised that Sir Steven Tindal has allowed this to happen.

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#149573 Dean will be around a while yet.

Posted by island time on 24 February 2015 - 08:39 AM

Calm down guys, Ketchup is gone. 180 days revocation of posting rights.

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#180942 Long coastal and offshore race fleets

Posted by DrWatson on 23 February 2017 - 10:26 PM

Sorry that the below seems a bit rambling, but just my thoughts on the matter:





That boat looks to be in pretty good nick. I think that if sailed well, you could do ok, and have a ton of fun. The Didi38 Black Cat just did the Cape to Rio Race - she's a 22 year old plywood boat, home built. She came in 7th on handicap out of 20 something boats (TCF 1.05 or something). If it wasn't for a less than spectacular tactical move earlier on she'd likely have come in better.



I'm quite surprised at the level of agreement here, and I also find myself agreeing with some other posters with whom I'd rarely agree.


So we see a number of issues and broadly these can be broken into 2 groups.


Skipper/crew issues:


  1. no time
  2. no cash
  3. no enthusiasm 


and Boat/organisational issues:


  1. Clubs/organisers not catering to the majority demographic
  2. A focus (perceived?) on dinghy and big boat racing (the snobbery effect?)
  3. Older boats
  4. Regulation (directly related to point 3) caused by risk aversion and shifting of responsibility/blame away from skippers/crew.


No time and no cash is strongly correlated to the era in which we live. The is no doubt, and the numbers show this, that people have to work a lot harder these days to buy the house, which is still considered the main achievement and what people strive for. All other things fall by the wayside in pursuit of this admirable goal. This is not a matter of people's expectations being too high, or a case of a sense of entitlement. The cold hard facts show that housing now is a crap load more expensive than it was in the 70s or 80s (high interest rates aside). Those who work full time jobs for the median wage are now just struggling along. In the 70s/80s, those who worked full time jobs for the median wage still had disposable income. Sure there are exceptions and examples of people who work hard and save and buy their house - but these are exceptions, they are not the rule and they are not a model for what should be achieved nor a model that can be applied to the majority. Disposable cash is at an all time low.

Because of that, yachties likely spend longer working to afford their boats, and that extra time working is time not sailing, time not given to racing a multi day (week) event.


Time poor is also a thing to look at. Especially in relation to age. Who were the skipper/owners of the boats in the big fleets of the 80s 'n 70s? Were they younger or older than those now? I can't be arsed looking for stats to back up my musings here but the median age at which we have children has increased. Time was your kids would be leaving home and fending for themselves when you were 40. Now they're still there when you're 50, and now you're also still helping them with uni fees or whatever. Time was your kids could leave home when they were 17 and get a job and fend for themselves far more easily than they can now. So you get whacked from both sides - you spend more time looking after them, or earning money to help them. And those years when you had more energy are now gone.

Also expectations of what your kids need have dramatically increased. As a kid, there was honestly bugger all spent on us other than food. We wore hand-me-down clothing. Schooling was free. You got a couple of pencils and some empty books and you held on to them. Apparently now, you gotta get your kid a smart phone and pay the connection, which as a kid I would have had to pay myself. So it's about expectations. If those skippers and crew back then had kids, How did they do it? Would you nowadays consider leaving them with their mother as the sole career for a week or 2 while you and your buddies go off to Fiji and back? Did fewer mothers work back then? (honest question) Was it easier back then to do that because you didn't need two full time jobs to pay for everything? Just random thoughts, and not suggesting we should keep our wives at home -  personally I'd like to take mine racing because she's an incredibly competitive person and will stay up all night trimming just to gain a couple of miles.


These things above lead to people not having the enthusiasm to spend their now much more precious time and cash on a week or two of racing where they will be at the back of a fleet and likely not make the cutoff. Far more rewarding to just cruise over to the Barrier for a long weekend, or that summer holiday. You gotta feel valued if you enter an event - and not just have that "also ran" feeling. 


That last point takes us back to organisation.

For events to be successful you have to plan and organise the event around the participants you can get. If you want more participants, you gotta broader the inclusion criteria, and target the population you have and sell them something they want and can afford.


It's an age old business rule - meet the market. I can set up a shop in Murapara selling only Champagne. I'm not likely to sell a lot of Champas but I'd likely sell a lot of Waikato. You gotta aim for what the people want or can do.


The Fastnet organisers are doing it right, IMHO. They cater well for ALL boat types. There are big flashy boats and there are small cheap ones. It causes a sensation simply because there are so many damn boats. I think it's vital that the big boats are there, it helps to dispel the perception that they're all rich pricks. It's all about the sailing and the common enjoyment of sailing, whether you're rich or poor doesn't and shouldn't matter a jot. It's not what you have that makes you a good person, it's who you are and your attitude. 


The Kerikeri race could have been saved, maybe. But it would likely require a lot of energy put into dialogue with not only the 2 boats who paid up and entered but also with those who were considering entering. Those 20 boats that weren't paid up. The answer lies with them. Survey those people, and ask what the reasons were for not signing up fully. I think timing and money and regulations are likely going to be the first 3 reasons given.


What are our expectations?

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#178234 Missing Cat, Dad and little Daughter

Posted by Puff on 11 January 2017 - 09:45 PM

Well I tip my hat to him. Obviously a skilled sailor in a boat more than capable of the trip. But what great story for both of them.

I do understand his frustration, I see both sides every week. Sadly that will detract from a great story.

I'd buy him a beer. those that can't go to izzy bay on a Friday night without filing a trip report or come home early from Kawau because the freezer broke won't understand.
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#177209 rescue off kaikoura

Posted by John B on 19 December 2016 - 08:32 AM

As for Shane ,... it seems like a very short while ago it was all about how to get a trailer sailer from Coromandel to Barrier, now its up and down the coast and a Cook Straight crossing.... all the way to the land of the giant flightless bird, and a new boat 

 Crew .org should adopt  'im as our mascot, he's living the life while people like me sit at a desk in an industrial area of Auckland .  For 3 more days anyway.

Have a great Christmas Shane .

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#176736 Kaikoura Wharf.

Posted by madyottie on 13 December 2016 - 07:46 AM

I'm with Wheels on this one.

We know Shane has difficulty expressing himself online, I have difficulty doing it in person!

That doesn't mean we can't learn by doing. Hell, if we're talking irrelevant qualifications to make ourselves sound big, try this for size...
Offered a place at Lincoln uni at age 14. Chose not to take it up.
Have a degree in sports coaching (sailing) from Bath uni in the UK.
Have RYA and YNZ instructor tickets.
Have a stack of unrelated qualifications as well.

All of which mean nothing in the real world, and if I relied on those I'd be long dead.

In the real world I've competed at all levels and had a couple of near death moments. It's those experiences that count, and classrooms count for Jack.

By helping Shane he can improve all the time. If we ignore people asking questions then what does that say about us?

I enjoy helping people and learning from people, often the two happen simultaneously. By actually thinking about issues from an outside perspective you can learn amazing things that you didn't even realise you didn't know.
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#171933 Orakei Moorings

Posted by Terry B on 14 September 2016 - 10:04 AM



ferge's kayaks 


akarana yacht club


and ngati whatua


all made submissions to 'open up' nice, sheltered okahu bay to better their use of it


they don't like the moorings there


or the people who clog up the public facilities using them


the marina also wants permission to expand


the mooring holders did not make any submissions about retaining their moorings


and are now unable to 


as the date for submissions has closed

As Erice states, it isn't just Maori (and there is no s on the end of maori - whether using plural or singular) who want it opened up - but many of you are focussing your wrath just on them. What about Fergie, the marina operator, or the Akarana yacht club?


These are (predominantly) european organisations. Going to call them out, insult them as well are you?


Suggest some of you need a cold hard look in the mirror. 

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#169572 Prism

Posted by JK on 01 August 2016 - 07:23 AM

Prism racing yesterday - mirroring the graphics on their hull!!


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#149654 Anchor Connections Warning!

Posted by island time on 25 February 2015 - 02:36 PM

Here is an image of an Anchor swivel, common in NZ, that has failed due to side loading.


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In this case the anchor actually held, but fell off the chain while the anchor was being retrieved!


The problem was side load. These swivels are often incorrectly attached directly to the anchor - there should be a few (3-4) links of chain BETWEEN the anchor and swivel, to ensure it can't get side loading and the boat swings around the anchor.


Do you have a swivel? Is it attached correctly? Maybe you should check?

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#149554 Dean will be around a while yet.

Posted by Black Panther on 23 February 2015 - 09:41 PM

My daughter just made the comment that it is hardly fair to blame DB for TNZ losing when the other boat was 3-5 kn  faster - it wouldn't have mattered who was driving.

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#148713 Barker and Dalton should go.

Posted by smithy09 on 08 February 2015 - 12:50 PM

Oh yeah. And our talent pool is shallow and rubbish. Seen the results from the latest ISAF regatta? 2 Golds, and quite a few in the top 10. And that's without Burling and Tuke!!! FFS, what more do you need? Also check out the 29er fleet any weekend and the Starling nationals, where you will see in the region of 150 kids battling it out in New Plymouth at Easter.. Don't get me started on the Opti fleet. FFS, what more do you need?

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