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#11 Jon

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 12:29 PM

Nice job
I agree lose 50mm and if it's not too bigger job making it longer, this will make it look lower
You will probably need to move the mainsheet to the end of the boom with maybe just a strong point on the cockpit sole ?
Lots of work but you only get one chance to make it look right
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Posted 17 August 2017 - 03:05 PM

I would suggest asking yourself the question - What is the absolute lowest height I need that will provide the functionality I really need?


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 07:48 AM

The answer to Mark is-  this is on the picture. In the other hand 50 mm lowering wouldn't cost much in terms of functionality, but could improve the visual "harmony". So I'm certain about to lower it that much.  


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#14 L00seM00se

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 02:13 PM

Looks good! I agree a bit lower.
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Posted 18 August 2017 - 02:20 PM

Aesthetically it would look better lower and longer and by extending the roof you could add some roll down canvas sides for added protection when required. I would add raised lips on the trailing edges (top & sides) to help deal with water running across it and onto you plus it would provide a better grip for hanging on to. I would also move the handrails further inboard so that you can still use them if necessary more comfortably on the leeward side when heeled over.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:20 PM

Aesthetically it would look better lower and longer and by extending the roof you could add some roll down canvas sides for added protection when required. I would add raised lips on the trailing edges (top & sides) to help deal with water running across it and onto you plus it would provide a better grip for hanging on to. I would also move the handrails further inboard so that you can still use them if necessary more comfortably on the leeward side when heeled over.

Nice job ! I'm planning on using  the same construction technique on a hard dodger for a 38 ft yacht. Its always going to be difficult to get good proportions on a small yacht such as the Nova. I might have put more curvature in the roof so you retain the height over the companion way but the outer edge is lowered. But hey when your coming back from man-o-war bay in a howling SW you will be way more comfortable.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:33 PM

Nice job ! I'm planning on using  the same construction technique on a hard dodger for a 38 ft yacht. Its always going to be difficult to get good proportions on a small yacht such as the Nova. I might have put more curvature in the roof so you retain the height over the companion way but the outer edge is lowered. But hey when your coming back from man-o-war bay in a howling SW you will be way more comfortable.

Are you want to keep the option to look forward over the dodger? On small boat is kind of useful but I'm not sure about on a larger one. 


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:42 PM

 "I would add raised lips on the trailing edges (top & sides) to help deal with water running across it and onto you plus it would provide a better grip for hanging on to."

 

Yes I did. Actually I added extra lay of foam inside and outside as well, to add some strength, help to guide the water off the roof and also accommodates internal conduit for wiring, the GPS areal and built in lighting as well. The handrail is in perfect position... already started to yell "Please grab me !"


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#19 Frank

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 05:06 AM

Are you want to keep the option to look forward over the dodger? On small boat is kind of useful but I'm not sure about on a larger one. 

its a good point, I need to do more research, It will most likely have tempered glass panels fwd facing so vis through the dodger should be very good. For a clearer view  I expect to be looking to oneside when seated or over the top perhaps by standing on the cockpit seat. Another possibility re the height over the companionway would be to have an additional  moulded "blister" to avoid bumping your head . Its kind of hard to draw here but standing in the cockpit looking at the rear edge of the dodger you would see a double bubble curve.


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Posted 19 August 2017 - 07:48 AM

Well, I believe the glass is lot more permanent than acrylic (what I intended to install) so alternative way to observation is not quite necessary. Also a larger boat have more chance to provide full headroom under the dodger which make sense to extend it a bit further aft. I don't have full headroom under the boom either so the dodger is even lower. I've been on larger boat with hard dodger and I will never re-create the comfort what I experienced there (in terms of dodger height but of course it is true for the entire boat). I don't even try. 28" is really a funny size, probably the top of day/weekend sailing and probably the minimum for longer trips for one or two person. So as far I agree with this I will not expect more from it. Back to yours, do you have a similar companionway setup as on Waimanu? Some larger boats, mainly IOR boats have very small horizontal access way to the cabin, which is great as easy to seal it in case of needed but very uncomfortable to use in every day use.


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