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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/20/asia/us-navy-destroyer-collision-singapore/index.html

 

A US Navy guided-missile destroyer collided with a merchant ship east of Singapore early Monday, the second US warship to be involved in a collision in just over two months.

The Navy's 7th Fleet said in a statement that the USS John S. McCain collided with the merchant vessel Alnic MC while the destroyer was making its way to a port visit in Singapore, the Navy said. The collision was reported at 5:24 am local time, according to the Navy statement.
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The photos show the destroyer with damage to her port side and the tanker is reported to have damage to her bow.

That would tend to indicate the destroyer had right of way.

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The photos show the destroyer with damage to her port side and the tanker is reported to have damage to her bow.

That would tend to indicate the destroyer had right of way.

That would be a change from the month before last.

 

I wonder why, with such advanced radar, the US Navy guys can't see a f**king big ship?

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I wonder why, with such advanced radar, the US Navy guys can't see a f**king big ship?

Maybe they all have there heads down looking at a Radar screen. :roll:

Or worse, maybe they are all looking at the smart ph screens txting. ;-)

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It would be plain nuts to travel through that area using electronics only. There surely would have been a watch. The idea of cyber attack I think might be an excuse to save face.

Seeing the other vessel wouldn't help though if you can't get control?

Electronic controls maybe?

Don't know how warships work but it does look interesting especially with the geographical locations of the incidents?

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if the explanation comes down to mysterious, unprovable malicious intent  

 

or incompetence in the dark 

 

i'd start with incompetence

 

if these billion? dollars warships

 

can be hit by huge freighters at 7? knots

 

how can they avoid another uss cole type attack from a hundred times smaller speedboat going 4 times faster and able to change direction + speed far easier?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing

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I'd be very surprised if a fully crewed destroyer failed to have a proper watch system. There are a number of possible explanations but as that article says, there is a statistical anomaly. I have had some experience in cyber security, you'd be surprised just how prevalent attacks are in banking and government. Interestingly the US navy has returned to required celestial navigation training, good for us too, the course is freely available online from Vanderbilt University.

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There have been 4 collisions in 12mths. That's really worrying.
But cyber attack? These vessels are supposedly the most electronically shielded things on the planet. And surely the electronics are not connected to the internet, so how do you break into something like that?
 

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Maybe it's the other ship being attacked? Possibly it would be easier to control a regular commercial ship and have it ram the naval ship. GPS spoofing doesn't need the Internet, essentially it jams the correct signal and sends off the wrong coordinates to any GPS in range. Maybe the US navy GPS is not susceptible to these attacks but all the other ships in the same area would be.

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There was mention on the tv news last night of the warship maybe having lost steering a few minutes before the crash.

 

However it seems surprising that a)they don't have some sort of ready to go contingency, and b)the sleeping quarters were seemingly full during an emergency

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when the air nz dc10 hit erebus

 

they were theoretically under the flight control of mcmurdo base air traffic control

 

there were rumours they were all too stoned to bother with watching the screens for civilian air traffic over-flys

 

or they would have seen the on radar the plane descending into the mountain...

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