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#31 harrytom

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Posted 27 November 2017 - 03:01 PM

Never read a wishard book myself,This is a simple case of a drunk at a party 2 people missing(no bodies)so missing.

Olivias father being the Mayor at the time,police needed a conviction right or wrong,Arther Allen Thomas springs to mind.
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#32 darkside

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Posted 27 November 2017 - 03:58 PM

Nope.

Gerald Hope wasn't elected Mayor till 1998.


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 05:07 PM

Yep, Gerald Hope was not Elected till the end of 98. No one really knew much about him before then
We were all surprised he ran for Mayor in the same year as his daughters disappearance and with the trial still to take place. Many at the time made comments that he was elected based on him becoming a Household name at the time. He served just one term.
The last local elections, in 2016 saw him re-elected as a Councilor. He is also the CEO of the Marlborough Research centre. and has been since 1992.
 


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 05:48 PM

Stand corrected but still cant help some bais
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Posted 28 November 2017 - 04:59 AM

Did you also know that the "mystery Ketch" had been traced pre arrival in NZ. Or to be more accurate, a Ketch closely fitting the description.
A Ketch with the same description arrived in NZ waters a few weeks before hand. It had come down out of the Pacific islands. It had been "noticed" due to a very weird Sale that took place in I think Noumea and was thought it could be full of Drugs. It arrived in NZ in the NI and was reported by several Harbourmasters as well as Citizens on it's way down to Nelson and was known to have entered the Marlborough Sounds. Back then, it was common to hear of mythical stories of yachts bringing drugs into NZ via the Sounds. It is a huge area with hardly anyone around and such an easy place to unload and hide something without being noticed by anyone. The last known siting of this "mystery Ketch" after NYE was once again in the Nelson area, tied to the dock by Talleys in Motueka. It was never seen again after that.
 


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#36 DanInEurope

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 05:03 AM

Did you also know that the "mystery Ketch" had been traced pre arrival in NZ. Or to be more accurate, a Ketch closely fitting the description.
A Ketch with the same description arrived in NZ waters a few weeks before hand. It had come down out of the Pacific islands. It had been "noticed" due to a very weird Sale that took place in I think Noumea and was thought it could be full of Drugs. It arrived in NZ in the NI and was reported by several Harbourmasters as well as Citizens on it's way down to Nelson and was known to have entered the Marlborough Sounds. Back then, it was common to hear of mythical stories of yachts bringing drugs into NZ via the Sounds. It is a huge area with hardly anyone around and such an easy place to unload and hide something without being noticed by anyone. The last known siting of this "mystery Ketch" after NYE was once again in the Nelson area, tied to the dock by Talleys in Motueka. It was never seen again after that.
 

 

If it was tied up in Motueka, then surely there are some records of it? Customs/immigration, berthage fees? Does any record exist or are these all urban legends?


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#37 wheels

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 06:44 AM

Nothing much in Mot. There is now a small Marina, if you can call it that. Didn't much exists back then, apart from some Pole berths that all dried out at low tide. All occupied by small commercial boats back then. The wharf was just a wooden structure to tie up alongside. No fees, no one about. The Ketch was spotted by a family having a bit of a look around. The Ketch is quite striking in looks and would certainly have been tied up to a wharf there. Nothing else would have looked like it back then. The Family noticed it and had a good look, but thought nothing else of it till all the TV news and the comments about a Ketch. They immediately went to the Police and said they had seen this exact boat tied to the Wharf. In the TV doco some years later, they were interviewed about the sighting and were adamant about what they saw.
Today there is now a small Marina and a few Sailboats are there.


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#38 DanInEurope

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 07:03 AM

Yeah, but was the Talleys building there - still would've been other people to see it rather than just one family.

 

The problem can be than memory jus isn't very reliable, they may well have hardened their memories of what they saw based on the description on the TV.  It happens all the time, there's a lot of research on it - all well known about by judges and the like.

 

Not saying thy didn't see it, just like to have the whole picture available.  There could have been guys working down there also interviewed by police who said - nah that family are full of it, no ketch ever been in here? Who knows.

 

Then, what if there was a mystery ketch? Not sure it proves much.


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#39 DanInEurope

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 07:28 AM

If you have trouble sleeping, there's quite a lot of explanation in these documents about these issues.  These are from his application for mercy.

 

https://www.justice....to-minister.pdf

 

http://media.nzheral...inal report.pdf

 

Worth a read if you are really keen on this stuff.  Seems to demolish some of the more hyped up stuff in the media (like the DNA evidence which this report says is kosher). - but still some room for doubt.  It seems its the lack of explanation for his movements and the cleanup and damage to his boat that's the real clincher.


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#40 ScarecrowR31

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 04:16 PM

Near identical ketch was in NZ waters at the time and had been to sounds just before. Person who crewed on it into NZ waters had a wife who was a cop at the time . This was looked at carefully and eliminated. Incidently she was involved also at checking out the Blades movements around the coast prior to the event. 


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