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#1 Sabre

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:13 PM

Early April fools joke? 10-12k each for new signs?

"A string of new design and safety features have almost quadrupled the price of putting up welcome signs in Marlborough.

A campaign to replace the old 'Love Marlborough' signs dotted around the region began in 2015, when erecting the new 'Only Marlborough' signs cost $3000 each.

The council managed to replace 12 signs at that price before the cost jumped to between $10,000 and $12,000 per sign, blowing the council's expected budget."

I just had a fancy vinyl printed one made 2m x 1m for circa $420. An hour or two with a spade will see it installed. Im fairly confident I won't have to import any specialist digging equipment from Nelson to suck the soil up unless the physics of digging a hole have changed recently.

"When they install the signs they extract the dirt with a suction machine which comes from Nelson," Henry said.

https://i.stuff.co.n...f-welcome-signs
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#2 Knot Me... maybe

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:21 PM

Early April fools joke? 10-12k each for new signs?

Unlikely.

 

As the Government and councils are so much more efficient than the private sector the MDC undoubtedly just saved all their ratepayers a few million dollars.

 

I do like the marker posts on the side to warn people there is a sign right there. Imagine the carnage if they weren't there.


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#3 Sabre

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:42 PM

Haha yes I wonder if the H&S reviewing sub-committee will adopt the new sign safety warning marker posts for all signage in the Malborough area.. maybe even some smaller signage warning that there is bigger signage coming up so drivers know not to drive off the road in that vicinity.

I wonder if anyone pointed out to the very competent person in charge that they could perhaps just attach the new signs to the old posts?
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#4 Black Panther

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 08:04 PM

Instead of making them earthquake proof why not make them cheap and replace if necessary. It would probably take 4 or 5 big earthquakes before reaching an equivalent price point.
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#5 Fish

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 08:06 PM

The special hole digging suction machine that comes from Nelson is just hydro-excavation. They use a water blaster to loosen the dirt and suck it up with a vacuum loader, generally the same gear you would use to empty a septic tank.

 

Its the latest craze for avoid service strikes when excavating. A service strike being when you whack an existing underground service and break it. This is generally seen as an H&S issue, but in reality it is just an additional cost of repair and some disruption. The main risk of hitting a water pipe is getting wet. A waste water pipe, well you might need a shower... The only immediate safety risk is hitting power, but that is the easiest to find with a service detection tool (a CAT, or Cable Avoiding Tool) its basically a metal detector, any idiot can use one, but strangely they are hardly used in NZ. They were standard issue in the UK, any spade or shovel that got issued had a CAT go with it. You wave it around madly before you dig, if it beeps you don't dig there (you go to the pub and wait...)

 

We used to hit a couple of gas mains a week in London. Every now and then one would ignite. Very safe when on fire as there is no risk of explosion, and you don't need warning signs, as people tend ('tend') to stay away from the flames leaping out of the road.

 

The overall cost sounds a bit excessive for these signs though. Why they needed hydro-excavation is not clear. I would have thought they could just put the signs where there weren't any other services. It's not like there is paddocks and sh*t everywhere around that area...

 

To be fair though, a large proportion of that cost was probably checking the District Plan, the Regional Plan and the Long Term Plan (for each site) that you could put a sign there, assessing the visual intrusiveness, checking the line of site of side turning vehicles, ensuring each site was not Wai-Tapu, carrying out an archaeological survey for middens and completing a risk assessment for each sign. The cost of installation probably wasn't actually that much.


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#6 lateral

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 09:42 PM

You left out the navel consultant. He checks  no navels have been done out of job erecting the sign.

The more navels the better.

And, If its not over budget something must be wrong with the sign.

 

BTW, wtf is a traffic mitigation plan? It is that some kind of way to blame us for the insane congestion

and get us to direct traffic through our property to de-congest our street?

Or is it the navel thing again?


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#7 erice

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:37 AM

We are getting our roof done

Had a flurry of emails recently asking for our tragic mitigation plan

Fortunately the roofer had decided against scaffolding, saying a guardrail + sizzorlift is all he needs

So we don't need a traffic plan
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#8 Sabre

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 08:01 AM

We are getting our roof done

Had a flurry of emails recently asking for our tragic mitigation plan

Fortunately the roofer had decided against scaffolding, saying a guardrail + sizzorlift is all he needs

So we don't need a traffic plan

But have you notified the CAA using the HSR-264 form so they can mitigate their flight plan risks?
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Posted 07 March 2018 - 08:26 AM

Been renovating a clients wallet in Remuera over the last two years and the upper 500 metre portion of Victoria Avenue has been earthquake proofed.

Now you may wonder what this entails.

First you remove the existing road to a depth of 600mm and apply base course then pour in 300mm of concrete which is then topped with old fashioned bitumen tarmac. One lane at a time. Took a year to complete. God knows what that 1/2 kilometre cost.

Anybody seen the Roading and Drainage Contractors Early Retirement Fund been generated for well over a year in Franklin Rd.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 10:06 AM

We dined out on that story here in the office all afternoon yesterday.  It's just ridiculous.  The nonsense about the sign needing to be designed for something hitting it or high wind should have already been covered in the originally over the top 3k design solution.  

Scan for the services and move the sign accordingly so that farmer joe can hook up his post hole borer to the excavator.  

 

Someone is clearly taking the piss and its permeated all the way to the top.


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