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#1 Northland Wanderer

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 07:51 AM

Hi Guys

 

I am planning to take my boat offshore in the next year or so, I have sailed all my life but it was all costal sailing. This will be my first time offshore.

 

Can anyone recommend a pathway between where I am at now and being competent sailing offshore (and achieving Cat 1)

 

The obvious things that I will need are:

 

Offshore experience (I am hoping to crew on an offshore passage in the next 12 months) 

Navigation training 

First Aid

Radio Operator

Survival at sea training?

 

Can anyone recommend any good training courses that will teach me what I need to know and will be valid for Cat 1? I have seen the Ocean Yacht Master Course but is that overkill for what I am wanting to do? Is getting experience better then a formal qualification? Any help is greatly appreciated :)


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#2 Black Panther

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 07:57 AM

The first one. Experience
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#3 armchairadmiral

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 08:08 AM

Experience everytime. Go crew for your first trip with an experienced skipper. Maybe a race yacht delivery
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#4 Northland Wanderer

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 08:24 AM

Thanks Guys. Thats what I was thinking. So if I get 2 or 3 trips under my belt will that be enough for Cat1? Or are there any other courses that will be worth doing in the meantime?


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#5 John B

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 09:53 AM

The general cruising fleet will be leaving from may on and comes back  before December, there's often people looking for crew either way. More often they're organised to go up and need people for the return.

 So you need that offshore sailing under your belt. I've met several people who advertised their availability here and  got on boats. You could also contact or join the Island Cruising assn and tell them you want a job sailing as crew. After all the cyclones last year I think they're leaving later , more like late may this year.

 You need  a sea survival course, and a medic course. 

 

 But the best advice i was given and am happy to pass on , is to find a category inspector and have a chat for an overview. Part of the process is evaluating you as skipper. In other words start on a relationship earlier rather than later so they know what you're about and you know whats expected. Cat 1 is not just about the boat.

The inspectors I've met are all very experienced sailors, they want you to go offshore and safely. They want you to succeed, its not a WOF for your car, pass or fail.


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#6 Black Panther

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 10:25 AM

I'm curious, is the sea survival and medic for cruisers also, I thought that was just for racers.


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#7 John B

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 10:32 AM

Yeah , I'm sure that was a requirement. Sea survival to a certain percentage of crew. 

Sea survival  was a course worth doing  but it annoys me that it runs out after 5 years and there is no refresher course.

 You learn nothing the second time around and you are forced to hand over yet another $500 to someone else to satisfy some paper

If there was a refresher at reduced cost it would be much fairer and more reasonable..


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#8 southernman

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 10:51 AM

Yip the Sea Survival and Offshore Medic are a requirement for Cat 1 now.  

 

Personally I'd think that a good Coastal sail around NZ is enough experience, sailing around NZ is harder than most offshore passages.  

 

Take your yacht to Napier and back and that should be enough to sort out any issues with experience.  


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#9 Black Panther

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Posted 05 April 2018 - 11:43 AM

Shit - I am no longer competent to sail my own boat offshore.


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Posted 05 April 2018 - 12:00 PM

I learnt something in the first sea survival course I did, and same with the med course, so I don't begrudge doing them.

Med refresher I can understand but  the only thing new or different in the sea survival over the 4 years was the advent of AIS transponders, which I knew about.


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