Kevin McCready 83 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 If Branson is your pin-up boy, I rest my case. A man like him paying for women's company is pitiable. Is he in jail yet for his anti-consumer actions in UK rail and insider trading in NZ? He got access to confidential information that NZ online casinos would be legalized, and then used it to make millions. Just the sort of person we can all emulate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,566 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Another one to add to your reading list: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Explain_Things_to_Me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex TL systems 63 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Got to admit I am a. Bit confused about the sudden topic change Kevin is there a reason or is just randomly inserted into the thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex TL systems 63 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Ok I just thought it was a type of nice jacket Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I think life will get a bit too complicated if we try and apply a moral judgement to such minor aspects as the discussion of life rafts and life jackets. I'm all for calling out latent sexism, but personally I think referring to a lifejacket as a well known supermodel is an order of magnitude different to rooting interns on the companies board room table. I thought KMM's analogy that his life jacket was as comfortable as a warm Chalize Theron was a good analogy of a comfortable life jacket, it made me think of this rich and famous person who was doing just that... I must say it didn't occur to me that mentioning Richard Branson would cause such moral outrage. I do apoligise for any offense caused, regardless that it was un-intentional. I shall endeavor to avoid mentioning any prominent person in the future, in case something in that prominent person's past has offended the sensibilities of the board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bazzathemammoth 37 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Fully. Take that metoo stuff down to smalltalk please. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Timberwolfy 62 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I have done a decent amount of international travel with my lifejacket and had no issues. Sometimes I took the cartridges out and left them on top of the jacket in a plastic baggie (looking at you, American TSA), other times I left them "plugged in." Once I left my knife attached to the jacket (grateful I didn't end up in Malaysian jail for that one...) This is all to say, YMMV, especially considering this is my experience with a jacket, not a raft. You can always ring the airlines or airport and ask what their requirements are for liferafts. I'm not surprised they're strict, but you'd think they could relax a bit considering it's safety gear very similar to what a plane will already have on board. Sidenote: I would willingly throw myself overboard if it meant cuddles from either Branson or Theron... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 511 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 #metoo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vorpal Blade 89 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Sidenote: I would willingly throw myself overboard if it meant cuddles from either Branson or Theron... I'd think this would a 50/50 call and all subject to who was the cuddler. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 291 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Whatever you guys are all smoking, I want some. Back to life rafts...so, I guess if a life raft could go KABOOM inside a plane, then it could go KABOOM inside your boat too. So, do I now need two life rafts? A life raft to save me if the other life raft goes KABOOM and blows a hole in my boat? A life raft to save me from my life raft. Confused? #metoo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,566 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I like the idea of a "raft " that inflates inside the boat and keeps it afloat thereby making it unnecessary to abandon ship. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Timberwolfy 62 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 only the best, Zozza A life raft to save me from my life raft. and a "raft " that inflates inside the boat and keeps it afloat thereby making it unnecessary to abandon ship. those are some great highdeas if I ever read any! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 243 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I like the idea of a "raft " that inflates inside the boat and keeps it afloat thereby making it unnecessary to abandon ship. There are air bags available to do just that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Myjane 40 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Do you know how much room they take up in the boat de flated I veseen these bags and there big Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkside 61 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 We had a raft self inflate while we were out to dinner in Mahon. They take up quite a bit of space in the cabin. Luckily we could see the valve and didn't have to stab it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex TL systems 63 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Could be done with bps boat being timber. If you can fit in enough positive flotation to overcome the negative and keep it balanced so the boat will stay level. If you know how many sheets of ply were used in construction and the weight of ballast plus motor mast etc you could estimate how many cubic meters of air or polystyrene etc you would need. Or just start again with a multi Hull. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Pogo's are designed with foam in all the voids, like under bank spaces, so they are unsinkable. I'm sure there are a few other production boats that do that, it's not a new concept. But would you still need a raft if you had a certified unsinkable boat? Pogo's still carry rafts. Fear of fire I guess... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Watertight bulk heads also help keep boats afloat. Not so common on average sized yachts. These would all reduce the need of going to a raft, improve the odds of staying on the boat etc. I'd think you still want to carry a raft or suitably designed survival dinghy anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,211 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Titanic anyone? Nothing is unsinkable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex TL systems 63 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 My wharram cat has 2 full bulkheads in each Hull which may assist in isolating any leaks. The disadvantage is having 2 isolated smaller cabins instead of one larger space. All about compromise but the perfect boat could be the one you already have until the next one arrives. A fire you can’t control will mean having to abandon ship in a hurry so some sort of raft or alternative will still be needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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