harrytom 640 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Saw this on Trademe and according to Q & A no special ticket to operate as it is a private vessel??surely that cannot be right? www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-1580309906.htm?rsqid=44e13cfe142d4d37bd80bfd0b6ebf2eb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 If its not in SSM and all that, I can't see why you'd need a licence to drive it. Finding somewhere to park it and insurance without some sort of suitable qualifications would be more interesting. No bow thruster. Guess thats what tugs are used for in busy ports. So, ex "research vessel", Japanese. What is that "research" the Japanese do every summer down Antartica way? Has low side and aft decks, suitable for towing whales from, and clear walkways from the bow to the stern for passing the harpoon lines back. Just take the gun off the bow and no-one would know the difference. Whales processed, sorry, I mean researched, on the mother ship so no blood and blubber on this one... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 640 Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 HaHa " Fish" never thought about it being ex whaler,whoops research ship Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grant 40 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Interesting idea but I think unlikely, they tend to have much higher bow and taller bridge for spotting, pretty slow for a chaser too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 375 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I have long thought that those Japanese whalers are not to bright for seamen. Just go down to the beach. You could well be be fortunate enough to encounter a decent quantity of the born dead variety of the species which are easily accessed far less messy no pesky protesters and ready for immediate research. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 365 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I have long thought that those Japanese whalers are not to bright for seamen. Just go down to the beach. You could well be be fortunate enough to encounter a decent quantity of the born dead variety of the species which are easily accessed far less messy no pesky protesters and ready for immediate research. But you need to taste it as part of the research Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse 47 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Big boat, would be awesome to own but the bills!!!! I met a couple that lived aboard that ex navy harbour patrol launch the Paea I think it was called. 80ft? Oregon planked, grey, very cool looking boat, the total expedition go anywhere machine but it would have been like living on the Harbour Bridge, start at one end with the painting and general maintenance and when you get to the other end go back to the beginning and start again. Cant quite remember the figures but from Hobsonville to Islington Bay was $120 in diesel.Wasn't she the fairmile that worked out of the downtown wharves in Auckers in the 70's? As kids, we used to go out for the day fishing on her. I though there was a tonnage limit for none qualified skippers? 500gt? Same as pilotage limit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 640 Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 From memory the fairmile that operated as charter fishing vessel in early 70s was called "colville" skippered by "Len Selby"?? I believe she ended up in Tonga? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse 47 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Thanks harry. Yep, that was her. Not very fast but then you didn't need to go miles out to catch fish. She ran a regular saturday fishing trip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elenya 33 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 The 500 get is about the requirement to carry a pilot. For Auckland any vessel 500grt or more, or 40m loa or more, must vary a pilot regardless of whether they are commercial or not. There is the ability to be become a pilot exempt master for a specific port, vessel and berth/wharf but most exemption training schemes require you to have a commercial masters ticket regardless of whether the vessel is commercial or not. 39.99m is fine 40.00 m and you are caught or time to get the saw out.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rigger 47 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 The 500 get is about the requirement to carry a pilot. For Auckland any vessel 500grt or more, or 40m loa or more, must vary a pilot regardless of whether they are commercial or not. There is the ability to be become a pilot exempt master for a specific port, vessel and berth/wharf but most exemption training schemes require you to have a commercial masters ticket regardless of whether the vessel is commercial or not. 39.99m is fine 40.00 m and you are caught or time to get the saw out.... few others: Tauranga is 250gt or more Bluff 100gt or more Nelson 40m or more Go to https://www.maritimenz.govt.nz/rules/part-90/ for full listing. Elenya, if a vessel is built and has no tonnage cert and is not assigned a GT and the port has no length limit then I take it no pilot required? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elenya 33 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Hi Troy That one is captured by length, and by a clause of the MTA1994 allowing the Director (MNZ) to require any vessel to carry a pilot. This power is often delegates to the Harbourmaster. In my case I have only used it for some foreign fishing vessels where the master had very very limited English this was unable to effectively communicate, report, and understand requirements of navigating in the harbour. Long time since we sailed on the spirit together. Maybe catch up with you in sunny Tauranga some time. Cheers Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse 47 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 IALA near caught one US yacht leaving BBYC. We watched them head off down river and try to pass the starboard marker on their starboard side! Lots of waving and hooting saved them, imagine something like a 'super yacht'... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rigger 47 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Hi Troy That one is captured by length, and by a clause of the MTA1994 allowing the Director (MNZ) to require any vessel to carry a pilot. This power is often delegates to the Harbourmaster. In my case I have only used it for some foreign fishing vessels where the master had very very limited English this was unable to effectively communicate, report, and understand requirements of navigating in the harbour. Long time since we sailed on the spirit together. Maybe catch up with you in sunny Tauranga some time. Cheers Jim Thanks Jim, drop by if you like, avos are ready to pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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