Yourmomm 2 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Ok so it doesn't seem that there are any riggers nearer to thames than 1.5 hours away...so I'm going to have to get sailing...Shame. So please share positive experiences you've had with any riggers at westhaven, particularly for any with classic yacht/bowsprit experience...I dont need someone who can squeeze that last bit of high performance juice from my rig, (if you saw it, you'd understand....), just someone who knows what strong is, and what can survive a gale or two, if the worst came to the worst.... I'm just after some advice, initially...someone who wont charge me the earth to come and have a look at her, and walk me through what I need to do when I get her back to thames, and onto the hardstand...I'm guessing it would take about two or three hours of their time, that's all. If they travel, and can actually come and assist when she's back on the hardstand in thames, (and it doesn't cost the earth), then all the better. Otherwise, I'm just working on their advice, with a local engineering company, down here. Thanks for sharing your positive experiences. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,220 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Tell us what you want, and take some pics. DIY is good, and plenty of experience on this site:-) Oh, and maybe start with a good book, like Ivan dedekam’s “sail and rig tuning” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yourmomm 2 Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 Not on boat to take pics of bowsprit until weekend, but it's just stainless tubing, literally just extending under and beyond the pulpit, but extending approximately 4ft forward, with inadequate (i would say) standing rigging support. Previous owner left mooring line over, rather than under it, and you can guess what happened next...now I've got a bend to fix. But it strikes me that 2mm, 1" OD stainless tubing doesn't make for the strongest bowsprit, anyway: my last boat had a tree on the end. I'm wondering how to make it stronger: whether I can strengthen this design adequately, or whether I have to start again with a proper poled/beamed sprit, made of something solid, not thin stainless steel... Not really a rigger's exact mandate, but I 'm also after other advice, based on the fact that my mast is gradually collapsing into the deck: the deckstepped mastfoot has been heavily reinforced with additional timber and steel bracing at some point, (see photos) but the reinforcement itself is fixed to columns, which float on a thin fibreglass liner, (the settee fronts in the photos), which rises from the sole, not directly connected to the keel (Doh!). Part of getting her onto the hardstand is so I can construct a new ringbeam of sorts, connecting the mast to the keel properly, but, in the mean time, I'm making-do, by building a glassed in ply bulkhead from the keel to the sole, then using an acrow prop or screwjack drectly under the mast, and over this new bulkhead, as a compression post...im keen to see if what I plan is going to do the job, or whether there are alternative ideas out there... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse 47 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I am assuming that wiring is not mains!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yourmomm 2 Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 Nah 12v. I'm redoing it all when I get the mast down, and I'll conceal it better than this under new headlining panels. It's a rat's nest, atm. I'm also taking recommendations for bulk supply of marine tinned cable! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I'm also taking recommendations for bulk supply of marine tinned cable! Apparently you can't go past David's Emporium in Whangarei for a sharp price Disclaimer: Wire may or may not be actual wire. Not claimed to comply with standard NZS 5001.3, or any other standard, and may work for a bit, if you are lucky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse 47 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Apparently you can't go past David's Emporium in Whangarei for a sharp price Disclaimer: Wire may or may not be actual wire. Not claimed to comply with standard NZS 5001.3, or any other standard, and may work for a bit, if you are lucky. Haha..very good fishy. Ashdown Ingram on Simms Rd. They used to be called something else 3 years ago when I bought drum off them, good price and not strictly wholesale if you are "cash and carry". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse 47 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Just a thought, halfmoon bay has a very experienced rigger on site. Never used him but heard he is reasonably priced and they have a mast gantry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 HMB is a much more welcoming marina than some. Especially when it comes to gantry usage... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ed 143 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 HMB is a much more welcoming marina than some. Especially when it comes to gantry usage... Just do the.. ahem... "training course" at Westhaven and as a marina berth holder you can use it any time for a small exorbitant fee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yourmomm 2 Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 Thanks.mebbe I'll try HMB for advice. Can't imagine unstepping there though...not sure how much they charge to store masts but probably not for free, as I'm hoping it will be in thames... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse 47 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Thames has a small yard, haul out and crane hire? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dtwo 157 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I did a bit on this a while ago when I needed to put my mast in. Boat was already in the water and most yards wanted me to be lifted out, crane mast in, then lift back in. Found Gulf Harbour was the best option where we could be in the travellift pen and use the arm on the travellift. The guys at GH Rigging were very good to deal with, did a great job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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