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#91 L00seM00se

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 07:01 PM

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Knot me this is the MK1 rocket in Dunedin dunno if it’s still available ? I’m pretty sure some of our southern members know this boat and will know if it sold or knot


Friend of a friend bought her.
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#92 BOIGuy

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Posted 17 July 2019 - 07:40 PM

Crewed on a friends 930 a few weeks ago for winter series race, took my 8 year old son, the owner had his son on board - similar age and we had a girl from the highschool team who we got to helm for the whole race. I raced a lot years ago and it definitely wasn't like this.

Turned out to be one of the most enjoyable races I've had for a long time, good breeze about 10 boats in the fleet, flew all the right sails, no yelling and screaming, no agressive match racing wannabees ... We got back to the club and found about 4 or 5 more kids had been out on some of the other boats too, they all had a ball and so did I. 

got me thinking a bit about what its all about. Found a couple of posts on another forum that fitted in well and give a bit of food for thought:

 

Three Laser sailors get Olympic medals every four years. Some get multiple medals by participating in multiple Olympics

Why the hell would any reasonable  person  believe thousands of kids are on an Olympic path ??

 

There are no trickledown effects from our governing body, no kickbacks, no special deals, nothing! You must fund it all yourself. Which has actually created a clicky/snooty group of Trophy Hunting families going back generations controlling clubs and classes (N.Z) I have to do my best and turn a blind eye to this sort of crap, which I was well and truly warned about prior to getting involved with....

I have come to realise that my kid will never amount to anything in the sporting world. But loves turning up to have a sail. That’s all I can be happy about. 

We recently had a regatta (in winter) kids had more fun jumping out of boats and swimming around laughing than worrying about racing, a reality check for some parents and myself also. But boy were they happy.

 

I'm pretty sure I was at the regatta mentioned above, helping out on the water, I could see that the Aucklanders were a bit out of their comfort zone but by the end of the weekend most of them had a little light bulb go on. I'd like to think our club did quite a bit for the future of yachting during that regatta.

 

 


 

 


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#93 Funfish

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 09:28 AM

Crewed on a friends 930 a few weeks ago for winter series race, took my 8 year old son, the owner had his son on board - similar age and we had a girl from the highschool team who we got to helm for the whole race. I raced a lot years ago and it definitely wasn't like this.
Turned out to be one of the most enjoyable races I've had for a long time, good breeze about 10 boats in the fleet, flew all the right sails, no yelling and screaming, no agressive match racing wannabees ... We got back to the club and found about 4 or 5 more kids had been out on some of the other boats too, they all had a ball and so did I. 
got me thinking a bit about what its all about. Found a couple of posts on another forum that fitted in well and give a bit of food for thought:
 
Three Laser sailors get Olympic medals every four years. Some get multiple medals by participating in multiple Olympics
Why the hell would any reasonable  person  believe thousands of kids are on an Olympic path ??
 
There are no trickledown effects from our governing body, no kickbacks, no special deals, nothing! You must fund it all yourself. Which has actually created a clicky/snooty group of Trophy Hunting families going back generations controlling clubs and classes (N.Z) I have to do my best and turn a blind eye to this sort of crap, which I was well and truly warned about prior to getting involved with....
I have come to realise that my kid will never amount to anything in the sporting world. But loves turning up to have a sail. That’s all I can be happy about. 
We recently had a regatta (in winter) kids had more fun jumping out of boats and swimming around laughing than worrying about racing, a reality check for some parents and myself also. But boy were they happy.
 
I'm pretty sure I was at the regatta mentioned above, helping out on the water, I could see that the Aucklanders were a bit out of their comfort zone but by the end of the weekend most of them had a little light bulb go on. I'd like to think our club did quite a bit for the future of yachting during that regatta.



We’ve just restructured our youth sailing approach with huge success...
Key changes were
Focus for post learn to sail is “adventures and fun days” ...with racing an option for those interested.
Parents of learn to sailers are targeted and drawn into crews so they get the experience and sailing bug,,,
We’ve searched for and found the old boats in the community that have been parked up in sheds... given them a tidy up ( many were donated to the club) and made them part of the fun fleet.
Our youth sailers have been connected to the Elliott 6 fleet at a bigger club nearby and raced the Twilight series together as crews,
Our current project is setting up a small fleet of ( mostly donated) trailer yachts that out newbie families can take away for holiday sailing...
Club is growing,,, everyone having fun... no Olympic champions but three youth looking at marine industry careers...
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#94 Fish

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Posted 03 August 2019 - 10:00 AM

We’ve just restructured our youth sailing approach with huge success...
Key changes were
Focus for post learn to sail is “adventures and fun days” ...with racing an option for those interested.
Parents of learn to sailers are targeted and drawn into crews so they get the experience and sailing bug,,,
We’ve searched for and found the old boats in the community that have been parked up in sheds... given them a tidy up ( many were donated to the club) and made them part of the fun fleet.
Our youth sailers have been connected to the Elliott 6 fleet at a bigger club nearby and raced the Twilight series together as crews,
Our current project is setting up a small fleet of ( mostly donated) trailer yachts that out newbie families can take away for holiday sailing...
Club is growing,,, everyone having fun... no Olympic champions but three youth looking at marine industry careers...

Funfish,

That is gold and really heart warming to hear. Good work.


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Posted 04 August 2019 - 08:23 AM

Awesome, that’s the best yacht club news I’ve heard in ages.

The fun days are a great idea, especially if done on a bunch of different from normal club fodder designs. Will help the 90% who aren’t winning every week have more fun and hopefully stay in Sailing.



We’ve just restructured our youth sailing approach with huge success...
Key changes were
Focus for post learn to sail is “adventures and fun days” ...with racing an option for those interested.
Parents of learn to sailers are targeted and drawn into crews so they get the experience and sailing bug,,,
We’ve searched for and found the old boats in the community that have been parked up in sheds... given them a tidy up ( many were donated to the club) and made them part of the fun fleet.
Our youth sailers have been connected to the Elliott 6 fleet at a bigger club nearby and raced the Twilight series together as crews,
Our current project is setting up a small fleet of ( mostly donated) trailer yachts that out newbie families can take away for holiday sailing...
Club is growing,,, everyone having fun... no Olympic champions but three youth looking at marine industry careers...


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#96 Wild727

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Posted 26 November 2019 - 08:13 AM

The problem that yachting faces these days is bigger than just costs. Cars are cheap, everything is done at a push of a button and young ones have attention span of a gold fish. Hardly conducive to yachting... Parents don't have the time, most subdivided properties don't have the room for a garden (let alone trailer with a boat on it). And let face it... taking little Jimmy to a soccer practice and dumping him there to have a single shot low fat soy non caffeinated latte with a cinnamon sugar topping is easier than "loosing" entire day driving to glorious Maraetai (where they don't serve ChocaMocaLatte!)

 

i do agree with many that disposable income is just that and don't really believe in people that say that say the cant do things themselves on their boats... Antifoul sanding is just dirty work but you cant really f@k it up! Electronics are not really that necessary, apart from a depth sounder (and i have been on boats running aground with all the electronics in the world...)

Short of a few specialist bits and bobs (splicing life lines etc) everyone should "have a go"... Its the only way to learn.

 

Not to mention exposure that rugby (head injuries anyone?) and cricket (standing in a mid day sun with a jumper on?????) get...

 

Yachting is a lifestyle and takes rather large commitment. I'm afraid that most people today haven't got the clue what they like, unless someone else tells them on social media, and that changes week to week...


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#97 Black Panther

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Posted 26 November 2019 - 09:05 AM

I still say the cost of ownership is a big issue. Just watched another friend drop out citing the cost of parking, insurance and near annual haul out just became too much.
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Posted 26 November 2019 - 12:09 PM

The problem that yachting faces these days is bigger than just costs. Cars are cheap, everything is done at a push of a button and young ones have attention span of a gold fish. Hardly conducive to yachting... Parents don't have the time, most subdivided properties don't have the room for a garden (let alone trailer with a boat on it). And let face it... taking little Jimmy to a soccer practice and dumping him there to have a single shot low fat soy non caffeinated latte with a cinnamon sugar topping is easier than "loosing" entire day driving to glorious Maraetai (where they don't serve ChocaMocaLatte!)

 

i do agree with many that disposable income is just that and don't really believe in people that say that say the cant do things themselves on their boats... Antifoul sanding is just dirty work but you cant really f@k it up! Electronics are not really that necessary, apart from a depth sounder (and i have been on boats running aground with all the electronics in the world...)

Short of a few specialist bits and bobs (splicing life lines etc) everyone should "have a go"... Its the only way to learn.

 

Not to mention exposure that rugby (head injuries anyone?) and cricket (standing in a mid day sun with a jumper on?????) get...

 

Yachting is a lifestyle and takes rather large commitment. I'm afraid that most people today haven't got the clue what they like, unless someone else tells them on social media, and that changes week to week...

 

Wow, talk about blaming and shaming people!

 

For the most part people are very busy working hard  to pay mortgages, kids are very expensive and yachting is not a cheap sport. Look around, the days of knocking up a plywood dinghy to compete with are pretty much over, yes there are many options out there and yes parents are concerned about head injuries. Things change, two parents need to work and there are a lot more sports and activities available.

 

You are right yachting is lifestyle, especially when parking one in a marina could almost fund an investment house purchase (if thats your thing) Blame the politics that got us here if you like, but here we are indeed. Perhaps one day we will look back and realise the golden years of working mans yachting were over 30 years ago! 


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Posted 26 November 2019 - 02:51 PM

Yachting does not have to be expensive though. It can be cheap family holidays and a cheap alternative to a Bach. We started with awesome holidays in a 3000$ trailer sailer and even now our annual cost to have a cruising cat would be less than 2k. It is a bit of work involved and weather dependant and more so than a caravan or camper which is another holiday alternative.
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Posted 26 November 2019 - 05:26 PM

Tl, you are totally right it can be cheap but its about what people expect.  100 years ago running water was a bit of luxury in places, now its expected and no one except the hippies are going back there. I would happily cruise on a shoestring but most people want something closer to a lounge room. As for the family "bach" that bird has flown for most people entering the workforce over the last 30 years. If you have a bach you are one of the fortunate few these days.


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