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#101 Fish

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Posted 26 November 2019 - 06:39 PM

I'm not sure why so many people are worrying / focused on the future of yachting. Just enjoy the present. Live in the now. Its the start of summer, go sailing, enjoy it, feed the inner person and learn to understand impermanence.


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#102 Sabre

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Posted 26 November 2019 - 07:09 PM

Good point fish.. on the positive side it means quieter anchorages :)
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#103 MarkMT

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Posted 26 November 2019 - 07:56 PM

most people want something closer to a lounge room

 

No doubt. And as I've got older I've grown more and more convinced that I really don't want to be "most people." Probably why I find Webb Chiles so inspiring. Of course he doesn't have a lounge room, but he does have the "great cabin"...

 


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#104 chariot

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Posted 27 November 2019 - 11:59 AM

Good point fish.. on the positive side it means quieter anchorages :)

Just had a few days out at the Mercs. Only boat in Parapara bay then a big power cat came in just on dusk to ruin my paradise.


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#105 Priscilla II

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Posted 27 November 2019 - 01:32 PM

And as I've got older I've grown more and more convinced that I really don't want to be cold wet uncomfortable and alone.

Webb operates at a far more heightened level of sailing masochism than I could ever endure.


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#106 Fish

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 12:29 PM

In September, Sport New Zealand and the national bodies for rugby, netball, cricket, football and hockey pledged to take emphasis away from winning and specialisation, and place it on fun and development.

A similar approach was launched by USA Ice Hockey 10 years ago and has proven a huge success.

The technical director behind that programme, Ken Martel is in New Zealand to speak to Kiwi administrators and coaches about his organisation's experience.

He said their change in direction had undoubtedly been the right move.

"We're having increased participation, increased retention and an unbelievable throughput to the highest level of our sport.

"The breadth and depth of the player pool at the elite level for us has grown dramatically. There's no doubt why that's happened is because we've gone down this path."

https://www.rnz.co.n...-proven-success

 

It appears there is a sound basis to this 'involvement for fun' rather than 'pathway to elite success', Sports NZ are now starting to get onto it...

BoIGuy and Funfish are already ahead of curve.

 

From my perception, there appears to be more younger owners and families with young kids getting into boating (keel boats). It may be just around my club. Certainly the availability of very cheap but perfectly adequate modest family cruisers is a help, and a good pathway into family boating. Noting also the Taikaka YC call for more Frostbite dinghies, so people can get into cheap easy one design racing...

 

I've no direct involvement with kids sailing yet, but I am interested in things like the Open Bic and their obstacle course based races etc. More fun for the kids.

 

 

Crewed on a friends 930 a few weeks ago for winter series race, took my 8 year old son, the owner had his son on board - similar age and we had a girl from the highschool team who we got to helm for the whole race. I raced a lot years ago and it definitely wasn't like this.

Turned out to be one of the most enjoyable races I've had for a long time, good breeze about 10 boats in the fleet, flew all the right sails, no yelling and screaming, no agressive match racing wannabees ... We got back to the club and found about 4 or 5 more kids had been out on some of the other boats too, they all had a ball and so did I. 

got me thinking a bit about what its all about. Found a couple of posts on another forum that fitted in well and give a bit of food for thought:

 

Three Laser sailors get Olympic medals every four years. Some get multiple medals by participating in multiple Olympics

Why the hell would any reasonable  person  believe thousands of kids are on an Olympic path ??

 

There are no trickledown effects from our governing body, no kickbacks, no special deals, nothing! You must fund it all yourself. Which has actually created a clicky/snooty group of Trophy Hunting families going back generations controlling clubs and classes (N.Z) I have to do my best and turn a blind eye to this sort of crap, which I was well and truly warned about prior to getting involved with....

I have come to realise that my kid will never amount to anything in the sporting world. But loves turning up to have a sail. That’s all I can be happy about. 

We recently had a regatta (in winter) kids had more fun jumping out of boats and swimming around laughing than worrying about racing, a reality check for some parents and myself also. But boy were they happy.

 

I'm pretty sure I was at the regatta mentioned above, helping out on the water, I could see that the Aucklanders were a bit out of their comfort zone but by the end of the weekend most of them had a little light bulb go on. I'd like to think our club did quite a bit for the future of yachting during that regatta.

 

 


 

 

 

We’ve just restructured our youth sailing approach with huge success...
Key changes were
Focus for post learn to sail is “adventures and fun days” ...with racing an option for those interested.
Parents of learn to sailers are targeted and drawn into crews so they get the experience and sailing bug,,,
We’ve searched for and found the old boats in the community that have been parked up in sheds... given them a tidy up ( many were donated to the club) and made them part of the fun fleet.
Our youth sailers have been connected to the Elliott 6 fleet at a bigger club nearby and raced the Twilight series together as crews,
Our current project is setting up a small fleet of ( mostly donated) trailer yachts that out newbie families can take away for holiday sailing...
Club is growing,,, everyone having fun... no Olympic champions but three youth looking at marine industry careers...


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#107 AJ Oliver

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Posted 05 December 2019 - 05:40 AM

Similar to the fact that only about 35% of students are motivated (positively or negatively) by grades, 

 

only a minority of youth sailors are motivated by the competition of racing. 

 

There are many other ways to enjoy the sport. 


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#108 Priscilla II

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Posted 05 December 2019 - 09:15 AM

Not very far if you want to view the 49er action.

Sky only and geo block on Sideline app wtf might as well go take up Boules.

Akarana clueless when asked for info now note replays are on regatta website with replay 90 minute delay.

https://www.sideline...-championships/


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#109 waikiore

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Posted 05 December 2019 - 09:17 AM

Dead right after a great classic weekend at Patio bay with roughly 50/50 men and women involved that shows a way forward.


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