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#11 Knot Me... maybe

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 02:37 PM

As per this article? https://www.liveabou...-bridle-2915410

Yeah pretty much except where they have that from the cleats down the topsides I'd run yours thru the 2 fairleads either side of your anchor roller structure. 

 

Ignore the swivel stuff, that's the US way of mooring and why you see so many piled so high after a decent blow.


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#12 Zozza

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 06:58 PM

Yeah pretty much except where they have that from the cleats down the topsides I'd run yours thru the 2 fairleads either side of your anchor roller structure. 

 

Ignore the swivel stuff, that's the US way of mooring and why you see so many piled so high after a decent blow.

 

The swivel is apparently to stop the chaffing should one side of the bridle twist over the other...that is my understanding.  How do you prevent this possible tangling up and and chaffing without a swivel?


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Posted 18 June 2019 - 07:14 PM

I had a bridle with no swivel,no tangle as there is a swivel at the bottom of the mooring where the bottom chain joined top chain,Tamaki river fast flow and swirly winds,no issues


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Posted 19 June 2019 - 09:49 AM

The swivel is apparently to stop the chaffing should one side of the bridle twist over the other...that is my understanding.  How do you prevent this possible tangling up and and chaffing without a swivel?

If you use the US system of mooring, which we generally don't, the boat can rotate around the mooring which will twist up the bridle and that can cause chafe, hence they drop that swivel in on to of the buoy. Te chafe they tend to suffer is fibre on fibre chafe.

 

In NZ we have swivels fitted lower down in the system on the bottom of the head rope or top chain (the other end of those 2 end on the boat so the swivel is usually not far below the surface when the boat is on the mooring), far bigger ones than the US uses. So that's where the twist stopping happens in the NZ method.

 

Hence the only chafe you need to worry about is where that bridle touches the boat. So no fibre on fibre but always a chance of fibre on boat.


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Posted 19 June 2019 - 03:53 PM

If you use the US system of mooring, which we generally don't, the boat can rotate around the mooring which will twist up the bridle and that can cause chafe, hence they drop that swivel in on to of the buoy. Te chafe they tend to suffer is fibre on fibre chafe.

 

In NZ we have swivels fitted lower down in the system on the bottom of the head rope or top chain (the other end of those 2 end on the boat so the swivel is usually not far below the surface when the boat is on the mooring), far bigger ones than the US uses. So that's where the twist stopping happens in the NZ method.

 

Hence the only chafe you need to worry about is where that bridle touches the boat. So no fibre on fibre but always a chance of fibre on boat.

 

Good one, thanks for explaining that difference between yank and kiwi moorings.  I guess plenty of chafe protection on the ropes on the boat, and should be good to go.


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Posted 19 June 2019 - 04:14 PM

Forgot too mention.our morning was chain with a ring at top then bout rope had a mooring hook that was chained to bollard on one side and the other was a rope.so picking up mooring hook was hanging down picked up bouy and dropped ring on to hook.so once secured then then brought rope up other side.sounds complicated but worked well single handed.
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Posted 06 July 2019 - 09:48 PM

Thoughts on this set up?

 

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 02:25 PM

Yeah,..... Na.  That's an American method, not for us down here.

 

The ropes running to the boat are not legal in most of NZ (too small), even if they do employ a technique I myself use and did say big steel a few years back, the un-equal length theory.

 

Why connect under the buoy in  place you can't easily see it - DO NOT SIT THERE THINKING 'BUT I WILL CHECK IT', No you won't, best intentions are good but it'll quickly be forgotten - that is also a wear zone and with critters trying to make it home.

 

Why not put the connection on top of the buoy and run 2 lines from there to your boat, 2 lines that are legal and in the 'BFO' size zone, cleaner, safer, cheaper, smarter ;)

 

PM coming at ya.

 

 

BFO = Big F**K Off


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Posted 08 July 2019 - 07:00 PM

Yeah,..... Na.  That's an American method, not for us down here.

 

The ropes running to the boat are not legal in most of NZ (too small), even if they do employ a technique I myself use and did say big steel a few years back, the un-equal length theory.

 

Why connect under the buoy in  place you can't easily see it - DO NOT SIT THERE THINKING 'BUT I WILL CHECK IT', No you won't, best intentions are good but it'll quickly be forgotten - that is also a wear zone and with critters trying to make it home.

 

Why not put the connection on top of the buoy and run 2 lines from there to your boat, 2 lines that are legal and in the 'BFO' size zone, cleaner, safer, cheaper, smarter ;)

 

PM coming at ya.

 

 

BFO = Big F**K Off

 

Heh, cheers KM


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