dutyfree 170 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 https://www.westhaven.co.nz/westhaven-new/news-events/sealink-moves-to-westhaven/ Sealink coming to Westhaven entrance, make sure you all keep clear ..................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markm 30 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Have to say DF my first thought on reading that was on the lines of "shouldn't SeaLink be adapting to the existing Westhaven users not the other way around". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dutyfree 170 Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 Exactly, existing users, 2000 almost, but hey they are going to put traffic lights up for us. Wait until the other entrance is closed, almost need a roundabout at the eastern end as it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romany 158 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Sent myself to the naughty corner for that one. Woopsy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Perhaps more positively, Tom Warren, Panuku's General Manager, Marinas is leaving the organization "to pursue a new venture building marinas." - http://a.smartmailpro.com/webv/4wexlarq3t Any increase in competition from new or expanded marina's is a positive step imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 369 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Perhaps more positively, Tom Warren, Panuku's General Manager, Marinas is leaving the organization "to pursue a new venture building marinas." - http://a.smartmailpro.com/webv/4wexlarq3t Any increase in competition from new or expanded marina's is a positive step imo. Not in a monopolist system.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I should probably have said any "increase in supply..." Even in a monopolist system an increase in supply changes the competitive landscape in a positive way. Even a monopolist has to compete with you choosing to own a trailer boat or to keep your boat on a swing mooring. If there is an unsatisfied demand for marina berths from people willing to pay current prices (e.g. people on swing moorings who would pay for a berth if they could get one), an increase in supply will meet that demand (this is why I said only "perhaps"). But if the increase in supply exceeds the demand at the current price, marina owners have an incentive to lower their prices in order to fill enough berths to generate the revenue needed to justify their cost of capital. Of course the flaw in this argument is when the monopolist is the government. They can lose money as long as they like, until voters decide to do something about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dutyfree 170 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 So here are the helpful hints on how to make sure the Sealink ferries don't have any problems obstructing the existing 2000+ users of what will soon be the only entrance. https://www.westhaven.co.nz/sealink/ So we already have the ferries coming in and out to refuel and dock, no traffic lights or 100 meter exclusion zone. Why do do we need one for these? Why is their loading zone being setup perpendicular to the entrance? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 377 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 DF you should know better than to ask perfectly rational questions regarding the wharf alignment but the truth will lay in what developments are to come north of the new Sealink site. This is a permanent facility not just a temporary relocation for AC purposes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raz88 96 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 That sounds like a shambles. So much for being a marina built by boaties for boaties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Shambles indeed. What happens when a trailer yacht without a motor using the ramp by Z Pier comes in or out of the entrance? Is there going to be maneuvering room under sail? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Setting aside the idiocy of locating the ramp in that particular location for the moment, the alignment makes sense. It uses a minimum of shoreline. To align the ramp so that vessels are parallel to the shore would remove usable access for the other commercial operators. Now, locating an operator that requires the entire entrance to one of the largest recreational marinas in the world to manoeuvre vessels is indicative of poor governance 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 377 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Adding to the chaos the Western exit entry closes permanently very soon. When I questioned the Panukites about what other single exit entry marinas the have visited a chorused reply of Marina del Rey rang out. Crikey aren’t most marinas in the North Island single entry exit so why example one located in Los Angeles unless they had been on a costly foreign juncket. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Westhaven has never looked attractive to me (and I live 2 min drive away). But Gulf Harbour looks more appealing by the week... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,568 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just point out to GH how much WH appreciated their liveaboards after the recent storm. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just point out to GH how much WH appreciated their liveaboards after the recent storm. I recently had a long conversation about exactly that with the new commercial manager and the ops manager at GH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,211 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Did you get anywhere Aleana?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I think it’s a slow burn but their new commercial manager (Tony Sparks) seems to be a decent guy and not just a good listener to customer feedback but a timely decision-maker too. So if he sticks around for a while I could see some positive shifts - let’s be realistic big organisations like marinas move slowly - but he certainly seems to be capable and well intentioned in my dealings with him to date (on a few specifics which I won’t go into here). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dutyfree 170 Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 Ok, not sure if I am suffering from oldtimers memory, exiting and reentering Westhaven yesterday I could swear the clearance between the super yacht docks and the southern end of the inside edge of the break water had shrunk?? It looks like the super yacht berths have been extended to the north based on some newer looking wood on the edges. Am I correct or just losing my mind?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 On the topic of punuku and superyachts: It is concerning that someone responsible such large budgets and financial decisions has both such poor attention to detail,and seemingly poor short term memory... An Auckland Council agency chief executive's explanation of a luxury hospitality trip accepted from a property developer, has been apparently contradicted by emails he received prior to travel. Roger MacDonald, who heads Panuku Development, claimed he had not realised until the day that the sailing trip in the Bay of Islands, Northland, on a superyacht owned by Tawera Group's Mike Mahoney, included a private helicopter flight from Auckland. However, correspondence obtained by Stuff showed two emails from Mahoney to MacDonald, sent a week before the trip, referred to both the location of the helipad, and the departure time for the "chopper". A spokesperson for MacDonald responded by saying he "didn't recall" reading the invitation. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/115357116/auckland-council-agency-boss-claims-no-memory-of-invite-for-helicopter-flight-to-superyacht Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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