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  1. 3 points
    Dtwo

    Boating now heavily restricted

    What say the members of this forum construct either a petition or a survey to encourage YNZ to fulfill their natural role. The role that they have positioned themselves to be (and have never been) is a body that represents, and advocates for, all "boaters". This would include obviously their current "performance sailing", but expand to encompass cruising, fishing(?), marina berth holders, and ....(????). They should also have a voice to represent us regarding the environment (I'm thinking antifouling), marine farms and ???? I'd be happy to contribute a bit of time. If we knocked something together and polished it up, we could then distribute it via our yacht clubs, contacts etc etc. This has always been a ridiculous situation where YNZ source their funding primarily from those who do not benefit from their activities.
  2. 2 points
    Tamure

    Best 40' yacht...

    Id say the price reflects the depressed state of the boat market and competition from AWB's. Townson 3 skin boats are pretty bulletproof.
  3. 2 points
    Fish

    Best 40' yacht...

    This boat, Balvenie, features in Brain Peet's book Des Townson, A Sailing Legacy, pages 258, 259. Includes original plan, layout and hull shape, and design characteristics The boat was reviewed in Boating magazines Oct 1991 issue. LOA 13.9m LWL 11.55m Beam 4.06m Draft 2.27m Disp. 12,220 kg Ballast 5,200 kg Sail Area 84 m2 Prismatic Coefficient 50.8% Long. centre of bouyancy 53.3% Disp. Length Ratio 220 "Hardening up on the wind, the Townson 47 is a powerful yacht. Despite the size of the rig - larger than that of a Ross 40 - Balvenie is able to carry full main and #2 genoa into the brisk north-easterly (20-25 knts, off Rangitoto). The yacht simple to manage - a real must aboard a long-range cruiser" Sounds like a great yacht, with a real pedigree. At that price looks like a good buy, but at 30 yrs old would need a good once over to find issues that marinheiro alludes to. They don't build them like that anymore, that is for sure. You would hope that the price reflects what needs replacing or re-fitting on it. If I were looking for a bigger boat, this one would be first on my list to check out, and not just because I have a taste for single malts... a comfortable centre cockpit, trans - ocean cruiser at a reasonable size, and comfortable life aboard.
  4. 2 points
    Discussing YNZ is hard as it is not an organisation like SPECTRE, Pussy Galores Flying Circus, NZ First or the NZ Avocado Growers Association, it is not bent on evil like those lot are. So any time something like this pops up there is a instant divide and quiet. I get bitched at for saying less than ideal things about YNZ which I do but does that mean I think YNZ needs to be shot, of course not far from it and I do support them in areas and quite happily. I am no different than most with the same applying to everyone else. I know a LOT who have issues with YNZ, mostly small things, but I know of none who want to see it gone. So any discussion needs to happen inside a context of 'this specific point or action is all we are chatting about here' and with eyes open to the fact you can make comments and criticise something without wanting it killed or disbanded. Also people go quiet as they are scared to be seen chatting for the very reason above, make one small less than glowing comment and the next thing is your are accused of wanting to throw a loaded Aussie in the front door. Again, no one I know of has ever mentioned wanting YNZ gone, never ever once ever, but most would like to see the odd change here n there, as expected and totally understandable. So any discussion here must take place with that in mind or it is 100% pointless. It is just a discussion on quite specific aspects people would like improved or are less than happy about only, it's not a call for the extinguishing of YNZ. YNZ has been changing the word 'yachting' to 'boating'. I do not know what authority or power they have to do that nor if they have any mandate over all boats or not. I do know they like to throw out the odd Govt Law to support themselves but I also know they break one or more of those very laws a lot. It would be good to actually know what, if any, real power YNZ has over anything or if what they use and claim is just assumed. Also if it is a true national body for us yachties, or should that be boaters, why do we get no say or vote in how it operates?
  5. 2 points
    44forty

    Boating now heavily restricted

    I wonder how it would go over if offshore power boating NZ tried to charge launch owners a fee ? To train kids in mini powerboat racing and run their organisation ? imagine if yacht owners had to pay too !
  6. 1 point
    Tamure

    Best 40' yacht...

    How so? Ive seen treated kaihikatea, heart kauri, treated sap kauri, macrocarpa. All have been fine, the method and quality of construction is important. Epoxy is better that resourcinal in some respects, detailing, watertraps, ventilalation etc. I would find it hard to believe that Des who was pretty anal about how his name was used and detailing on peoples builds would not be all over that boat.
  7. 1 point
    marinheiro

    Best 40' yacht...

    depends what timber was used in the construction of the hull
  8. 1 point
    marinheiro

    Best 40' yacht...

    that Townson unfortunately has some problems which is reflected in its price. It is being advertised as built by Barry Jones, this is not strictly correct, Barry finished it off - the hull was built by others, all as described in Brian Peet's book about Des.
  9. 1 point
    Tamure

    Best 40' yacht...

    Pretty sure that Townson has circumnavigated and a build like that will never be repeated in NZ. A high water mark for timber construction.
  10. 1 point
    Chemo I’ve got enough paperwork to confuse any plod, I’ve been stopped twice now and as soon as your say your heading to or from cancer treatment they just waive you on.
  11. 1 point
    armchairadmiral

    Boating now heavily restricted

    My main beef with YNZ is where the fees we pay get spent. And Govt.grants depend on performance mean a whopping salary bill to pay mainly for elite sailing as I noted earlier. Putting up fees is easy but cutting costs is an anathema to most bureaucracies and this one is no different.
  12. 1 point
    If i could swallow my humility briefly and offer some advice from a long time sneakaboard. If you are going to do something outside the rules or shock horror outside the law, then do it quietly. Try to stay below officialdom s radar. Do whatever it is, don't disturb other people, don't make mess and don't make a lot of noise. And don't telegraph your intentions on a public forum. By doing this your chances of success increase and you lower the probability that said officialdom will make life difficult for your friends in future. Hope that helps Now i shall quietly slip back into anonymity.
  13. 1 point
    As alternative fuel/electric vehicles increase on our roads, this is likely to become the best way of charging road tax. Although it is also a way to rip of small vehicle drivers unless the system becomes more complex. For instance, we used to have a 2 tonne and 3 tonne rate. Now we have one rate of 0 upto 3.5 tonne. So vehicles within that 3.5 tonne are all charged at the same rate of 0.072 cents per Km. Where as with the RUC held within the fuel tax, smaller Vehicles paid less because they tend to use less in the way of Fuel. It was a little more fair.
  14. 1 point
    Tamure

    Boating now heavily restricted

    Generally I am supportive of YNZ, but recently its begun to nag me along the lines of "no taxation without representation" I wrote to them and complained. The reply came from reception with a boilerplate blathering answer which basically said "go jump"
  15. 1 point
    waikiore

    Boating now heavily restricted

    I have done just this the last two years , refuse to pay YNZ fee through five yacht clubs and nominated one. This of course creates a great deal of hassle for the smaller clubs and I doubt that they have pursued it just pretended that I paid . However it is a point of principle and as I age more I note that the most fun regattas and events are organised outside YNZ !
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