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  1. Then you opinion and mine are not so different Kevin. Would you wear a life jacket while sleeping at night in a calm bay on a 40' yacht in good condition? I'm going to assume the answer will be no. Neither would I. I would not like to see a law that said you must wear a life jacket at all times while on a boat. I worry about how a law would distinguish between a scenario like this, and one where a lifejacket is necessary. The best way I can think of is to have it the skippers responsibility to decide, which is the law now. Do we actually agree that skipper responsibility is the best way to han
  2. Those are not the facts we are talking about Kevin. We are (at least I am) talking looking at each of the 71 cases in detail and working out probability that a life jacket would have saved saved someone. What were other contributing factors and what % of the blame should they take? How many were too drunk to help them selves regardless? How many would have died of hypothermia before help arrived? I know of several cases over a few years where a drunk bloke has got out of bed and fallen off the back of a boat in the dark while peeing. How many of them would likely put a life jacket on? Law or n
  3. Ok, well booboo asked what you think the law should be also and I can't recall him saying anything you could take offence too. Why don't you answer him rather than me if I have upset you. Posting what you think a reasonable and rational law would be seems a good way to encourage constructive conversation. One reason I'm against the compulsory idea is that I can't fathom how it would work without being ridiculos. Educate me? Another reason I'm against it is I have not seen any properly defined statistics on the number of deaths that would likely have been prevented by a life jacket. I
  4. Kevin, +1 on this, I'm genuinely interested in the details of what you think the law should be.
  5. Yip. Plus I reckon it's like that Chrisco crowd who 'make next Christmas easier' by taking money from you now. The harbour masters Christmas party piss up fund (or tidly winks/ what ever their type do for fun) will be empty by January, this will give it a great head start for next year.
  6. The drowning stats include those who die by drowning in a car crash or suicide. I think it comes down to the cause of death as determined by the autopsy - which in your example is likely to be drowning. Deaths by car crash, suicide and homocide are separated as 'non-preventable deaths' from all other ways you can drown, which are classed as preventable. When you read 'x number of preventable deaths this year' it does not mean a life jacket would have prevented those deaths. Maybe that it was during an activity that could be legislated against / banned, and that would stop further drownings?
  7. The watersafe link does take season into account in the info I copied. The stats were January to June 2016, and when they talk about drownings being down on last half year, they mean the same period of last year, Jan to June. If I had to pick half the year as the busiest it would be that half. I don't disagree that they will try to make themselves look right with timing etc if they do bring any new laws in.
  8. Yea true, there are buoyancy aids and there are life jackets, and they meet different standards and are for different purposes. Buoyancy aids are used for dinghy sailing, kayaking and water skiing to name a few. Is part of the compulsory life jacket discussion doing away with buoyancy aids? I sure hope not.
  9. From the watersafe website linked below: Forty-eight people died by drowning in New Zealand waters in the first six months of 2016 the first half of this year has seen significant decreases across many of the drowning environments and activities, particularly boatingwhich has decreased almost 70% on the half year average River drownings accounted for 21 of the 48 deaths so far this year Two people died in ponds Boating deaths were down across most areas – from powered and non-powered boats to canoes, kayaks and sailboats. Just one boating-related activity – jet skiing – saw an increa
  10. Why do they feel they need a law? It would still require education and enforcement. Why don't these groups put there effort into education so that people choose to wear them, rather than lobbying government to force them to do something they could do by choice. Plus they could educate people on all aspects of boating safety, (like not have 6 people in a 12 foot boat) rather than just the golden baindaid of life jackets. Speeding is illegal, people still speed and people still die, Jumping off the roof of your house isn't illegal, yet people realise the danger and don't do it. An extre
  11. I'm sure you have learnt a lot since the mullet boat Shane, but to be fair that's almost exactly what you did when you crossed the Cook straight in it. Your new boat looks much more sea worthy, good to see you looking into life rafts and professional repairs. Wear a life jacket at all times while off the coast, harness yourself to the boat, make sure your VHF works correctly and know what channels to use.
  12. You guys realise you have been pronouncing catameringue (like the whipped egg whites and sugar desert) wrong this whole time? On top of the great rudder, I also like his centerboard, if there was any lateral force, it would easy handle it. Does this remind any one else of Hotrod and the flyin Hawaian from sailing anarchy? His lee boards may have actually been a better design. There's a scary thought.
  13. mattm

    dampier Bay Marina.

    I'm not sure of the welcome he will get by the marinas in Picton, he overstayed his welcome last time from what I gathered, then complained they wanted him to pay, then a few days later left. As you say Wheels and erice, he wouldnt have had insurance last time, how about this time Shane? Insurance? It is a requirement of entering a marina with your boat, up to several million dollars of liability cover too, in case you hit someone else's boat. Shane- A berth up to 12m costs $30 / day short term, plus you must have insurance to the marinas satisfaction, no point showing up if you don't have t
  14. mattm

    dampier Bay Marina.

    You will find they, like most marinas in NZ, require you to book a berth, usually in advance, and then pay for the use of it, likely in advance also, then leave or pay more once the days you have paid for run out. Also, some what following their rules while you are there will help.
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    Batteries.

    Jon - Vsr's don't use diodes. It's just a battery switch that is turned on and off by voltage level, not your hand. There is nothing more to it than your solenoid, other than that is it smarter about when it turns on and off. It also won't turn on when cranking the engine.
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    Batteries.

    Too_tall - although I understand why that seems good, there isn't really any benefit, but there area few down sides. Firstly, there's no harm in the VSR staying on for a bit after turning the engine off. It won't allow your start bank discharged much by house loads at all, and typically it will turn off quickly, or once a load is switched on for very healthy batteries. Secondly, if you have other types of charging, shore, solar etc, the VSR won't turn on to charge the other bank while these things are charging, but the ign is off.
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    Modern Cherubs

    The Cherub that was sold on here a few years ago (earlier in this thread), called Willy Sanka, is finally back on the water. Was sold to a mate of mine, then he on sold to another mate who finished giving it a good birthday (before pics attached) and we took her for a sail on the weekend. Next investment will be some grip tape hopefully. Goes well and is great fun, very cool boats. (Can someone tell me how to imbed the video link?)..... https://youtu.be/6l8OhMZx0Ss
  18. Exactly ScottiE. Commercial boats are forced to comply with 3004 through MOSS, I have yet to see anything that says pleasure boats must conform also, other than a moss approved electrical engineer who was involved in making 3004 saying the EWOF inspector should be checking on every boat. Obviously the EWOF inspectors here have not seen anything that says its law either. Any one find where it is made law?
  19. The reason you need an RCD on the boat is they are giving the boat an EWOF, the boat can move, you may go to any old place without an RCD on the supply and plug in, with one on your boat. Your boat may not even live in the marina, just be there for an inspection, maybe it lives on a shitty old wharf at a batch without an RCD, with one on your boat, your still safe! Don't get so upset about RCD's, they are a tiny part of the issue, and one that ACTUALLY makes YOU safe, not like much of the rest of it. Port M require you to have a current EWOF sticker. They care nothing of what's in the boat - p
  20. Wheels-it won't be the same inspector. This guy hasn't been an inspector that long. What inspector do you expect to know about DC? The Marlborough lines inspector (at the end of the day the EWOF was to say your 230v system is OK to plug into the grid) wouldn't know about it either. These guys inspect new houses to certify they are safe to connect to the grid. They are 230v electricians with additional training to make them inspectors. They require no training or qualifications in 12 or 24v DC systems at all to become an EWOF inspector. that's why they want nothing to do with it. It was neve
  21. One other thing, the preface if 3004 says something like: most boats (or most boats 3004 will apply to) will be 3 phase 230v alloy boats and may have FC systems. I can check wordings if anyone cares. of course, another rule of owning a standard is no distributing, sharing what ever, punishable by death. It's nice they make the rules easy to access therefore abide by....
  22. I have been wondering when this would happen in Auckland, it's been the norm in Picton for a few years (not sure to be happy or sad we finally had something first....). It's almost 2 seperate rules at once. The EWOF was here was originally to say your boat is safe to plug into the national grid, and was issued by the local lines company, or 230v sparky with an additional inspectors ticket. They test correct polarity, breakers, correct rated cable and inlets and outs les etc. was all fairly straight forward. Only really saw shitters or imports that had badly adapted 110v systems in them fail. A
  23. I can't believe anyone bid on it, let alone 6 people. Wonder what the reason was the sale didn't go through... Also not sure about the description from the seller, it does not have 2 x 55hp yanmars, it has 1, arguably 2 paper weights that loosely resemble marine diesel motors, id argue the same for 1 or 2 propellers, it certainly does not have 4 cabins, not any more. Have to wonder about at least one of the rudders also... Would seem more relevant to list equipment that is unlikely to be effected by submersion then 6 months drying out- hatches, winches Bimini, and the approx height the tide go
  24. I agree. How can being in a boat be more damgerous than swimming? Particularly if you have just been and are about to swim. Sure if you have full wet weather and gumboots on then different....
  25. Why can't you be a 'sit down paddle boarder'? If I recall the point that made paddle boarding OK was being tethered on? In an inflatable you have maybe 3 seperate air chambers, far more free board, more sea worthy, more visible, two paddles, normally secured to the boat, all that's lacking is the tether.... Also interesting people in rowing skiffs (Olympic style) don't need a life jacket either... Guess they are kind of tethered... By their feet, in shoes, screwed to the boat....
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