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My Gill jacket isn't waterpoof either and it wasn't very old before it started leaking. Very disappointing. It should not matter how hard it rains, it should be waterproof. Last time i used it, which was a few months ago, I may as well not have worn it at all. I was soaked through. And it is not coming through seams or zip, but right through the actual fabric.
  However, I also have a set of Leggings and they are a totally waterproof material. However, on a hot day, they are impossible to wear because you sweat so much in them, you get soaked anyway. So I don't know what is better, something that breaths or something more like a Plastic Bag.

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Yeah, I'm getting sick of this too.  I think I've got at least two full sets of uselessness hanging somewhere.

Totally in there with you on that. $thousands over the years on names promising the world but delivering very short life span sh*t. The current crop is near top end big brand name and still looks like new but leaks more and faster than a high pressure fire hose, It's 4 odd years old and I do look after my gear.

 

This afternoon I got out my 6 year old trashed motorbike textile jacket which has bounced down the road a few times including when we have had 2 bikes written off from under the pair of us. I did a lap of the Akl motorways in the pissing rain and I got home dry. That was made by Alpinestars and cost less than 50% of the 'specialist marine' crap I had on yesterday.

 

Anybody had any experience with Kaiwaka?  http://www.kaiwakaclothing.co.nz/product/118-kaiwaka-legend-parka

 

The press seams to be bad on all the big name fancy pants brands, so surely time to try something else.

Yeap, I brought a couple of fisherman jerkin thingies, these ones http://www.kaiwakaclothing.co.nz/product/71-windtec-short-sleeve-vest for keeping on the boat for cold snaps or when visitors bring inadequate. They have done 4 trans tasmans, a SSANZ series or 3, been raced rallied and rolled yet are still like new. I love them, their price and be4st off all the fact they do actually work as advertised and stillo do years later, I would buy themn again tomorrow with zero hesitation. Hence while standing in the pissing rain yesterday I decided I'm riding up to Kaiwaka (hence their name, a tiny town a hour north of Auckland) tomorrow for a suss of their gear.

 

As a FYI, the shorty sleeves are bloody good. Warm pits and no arm restriction. Even on the chilliest of 4am's a long sleeve T short under the jacket and you are snuggly as. I LOVE the long tail flap bit, a worm dry butt crack at 4am is a wonderful thing to behold. Note I don't like wearing long wet pants much but do wear wet gear shorts, gotta keep the man jewels dry n warm ;)

 

I agree with BP on the old Line 7 PVC like stuff. I still have a set I brought when the Navy got rid of a pile a decade or 3 back, it's super loud pink, has RNZN markings all over it and far from anything technical but we use it at work and the lads stay dry. It's not that comfortable but then they are better than spending the day totally saturated.

 

I had a suss around today at options and while the marine names promise a lot I've heard it all before only to find I was conned hence a seriously major reluctance to go down the same route yet again.

 

The search continues.

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I don't get it Grant. If the Kaiwaka gear is all you say, why does the search continue?

There could be better I don't know about, there often is.

 

Besides I have no experience with the other Kaiwaka gear. My current set of gear is crap but the brand does make the odd good thing, like their wet shorts which I do like as they work very well. The only dry bit I had left yesterday was all arse ;)

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I decided to do a Google Image search. Came up with one or two pics of interest.
http://www.safetyandapparel.co.nz/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=3304

http://commercialfishingsupplies.com.au/wet-weather-gear.php
What I found was that anything that looked smart and what I thought would work well as a Sailing jacket, turned out to be a recognised brand like, Musto, Burke, Gill etc etc.

BUT!!!!!
I came across this. Something I thought was from yesteryear and now surpast by modern materials. But it seems I am wrong. And its all made right here in NZ.
https://www.westlandworkgear.co.nz/oilskins-nz-rain

Then looking further into their site. I particularly like the look of this stuff. https://www.westlandworkgear.co.nz/rain-jacket-nz

But really liked the look of this one https://www.westlandworkgear.co.nz/products/534c97846834143ec18384dc

I also really like the look of this one, but can't find info on it on it's own. https://www.westlandworkgear.co.nz/wet-weather-gear-nz
 

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Never really had a lot of getting wet on yachts - and have always worn either my Kaiwaka gear ( Stormforce range as the Legend range was not out 6 years ago when I last had to buy anything ) or Stoney Creek's hunting gear. Its what I will wear for months over winter on the farm and I have no tolerance for working whilst wet. 

 

I have never had problems with the gear whilst sailing either, but you may have different expectations or place different demands on it ( great dodger and autopilot mean we tend to stay out of the worst of the rain ).

 

 

I have moved more to the Stoney Creek gear having had some Swazi gear for hunting and when I eventually damaged that gear, I didn't want to pay $650 for a new parka. A friend who runs a hunting and fishing store suggested I try some Stoney Creek gear and I now have quite a bit of their gear. I also use the hunting parka/jackets as my farm gear mostly now as its so much lighter and cooler to wear than the Kaiwaka stormforce gear. 

 

I must credit the Kaiwaka gear where it deserves though - I never get wet wearing it. Not through the seams nor the zips. Its got a great hood and by far the most impressive thing about it is that its 6 years old, doing active service on dairy farms. That is very, very impressive. The soft flexible rubbery plastic stuff lasts 8 months at best. 

 

My main concern is that the Ag and hunting gear is not exactly high visibility. Lose someone overboard wearing that and they could be really challenging to spot in poor conditions.

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Why were you hanging around on leeward side?

Was obviously a very naughty boy at some point!

No..., well, always  ;-) but I was getting the Code Zero down :-P

 

BUT!!!!!

I came across this. Something I thought was from yesteryear and now surpast by modern materials. But it seems I am wrong. And its all made right here in NZ.

https://www.westlandworkgear.co.nz/oilskins-nz-rain

I still have the oil skin my dad bought me as a teenager for hunting/tramping/going bush - it has holes from going down the road (worn over the top of my leather M/C jacket) BUT it's still waterproof.  I was amazed at how comfortable (breathable) and DRY it was the last time I wore it.  

I don't wear it on the boat because; a) it's dark brown/really not visible in the slightest. B) in a blow, water does get in the hood and up the sleeves, and it tends to blow on a boat.  I had the same issue on the bike but it was better then nothing - you think your Gore-tex feels heavy when wet - try leather.

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Excellent spotting Sir.

 

It just so happens Maui OP is a customer of ours so I've just alerted them to the conundrum and asked for comments on their range which includes Kaiwaka, Line 7 commercial and some outfit called Grunden from Sweden that I found interesting. They are heavily into commercial fishing so are bound to have an idea what is more popular and why. I shall post their comments.

 

I may even try to lurk a set of each for a shoot out test. Put it on and get the lads to hammer me with a few hoses at the same time, all very technical :)

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