paxfish 5 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 'nuf said.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clive 13 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 A good sewing machine is a handy tool when you have tramps! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 They are nightmare. Lashing chafe, uv degradation, support rods breaking. Never ending battle on Voom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paxfish 5 Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 They have to take a huge load in caternary. And proper building experience is hard to come by. The average canvas maker has no idea. My forward tramps are holding up fine. They get less traffic and less stressful traffic. The areas near my halyards, and near my motor box get hammered. I am doubling up the number of attachment points to further distribute the load. I pulled them off yesterday and added three rows of PTFE stitching all around. And ordered up 100 Feet of new cordage. The biggest hassle is the 30 bolts along one side of each tramp that must be removed every time! There is a lot of labor associated with having a huge deck space that only weighs about 10 kilos...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 presumably modified many times over 40 something years capricorn currently working well with this Sam/Josh/Andrew/Bill system .mesh triple stitched with ptfe-teflon thread, around fibreglass rod which is individually tied / tensioned to the 20-something saddles along the float with a suitable size of standard cordage.....when it's time to remove the tramp, retention or change the cordage etc it gets cut-off and renewed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B00B00 310 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Pretty sure I made those ones for Sam. I hate tramps too, I think its mutual, they dislike me intensly as well..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 sort of on topic am looking for some safety? netting for either side of the Bucc 24 skinny bow don't need to walk on it, just don't want to fall through if slipped bunnings + M10 now seem to only stock fine "bird netting" or rigid PVC netting any ideas on where to buy a few meters of something like traditional black tennis netting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushMan 31 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 If you have no luck locally I have purchased custom nets from Kings Nets in Melbourne in the past. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Here here! The new boat has reduced tramp area. When I got it it had Ali support rods. The lashings round these did not seem to suffer chafe. When I (eventually) get her back in the water half will be Ali and half will be f-glass so will be interesting to compare. KM what you you 'suggest' as the best low chafe lashing cordage? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paxfish 5 Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Scotti - I am using 3mm Dyneema. It has chafed a bit after 2 seasons, but no failures yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Freedom GBE 27 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Individual 4mm Dynema lashings. Spliced loops to the ends. They don't break but we did have to strengthen and double up the holes in the engine pod. We have also heat shrunk the ends of the rods so they don't slip out of the tramp. Working so far. You will have to come to Auckland with your old tramp and Bill Barry will reproduce you the best tramp you can buy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paxfish 5 Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 Much better now. Three rows of stiching all around and doubled up the lacing points on the engine pod. It worked great all weekend with up to eight people, so hopefully I'm good for the rest of the season.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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