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Vets aren't trained as to what gunshot wounds look like. Its not in their syllabus. They have no regular experience with gunshot wounds, so the chances of any vet being able to tell them apart from a puncture wound is minimal. More so, when you can't get near the animal...

It terms of asking a professional, you could ask a lawyer, accountant or engineer, if they were engaged with or working for the happy clappy's, you'd get the exact same emotive carry on, and they'd all say it was a gunshot wound. What do you call it? confirmational bias?

There was never any objectivity around that call.

These aren't your average vets dealing with cats and dogs. These vets have trained in handling native wildlife and are specialists when it comes to gunshot wounds. Massey University particularly has years of experience carrying out post mortem examinations of native wildlife. Edited by outoftime

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These aren't your average vets dealing with cats and dogs. These vets have trained in handling native wildlife and are specialists when it comes to gunshot wounds. Massey University particularly has years of experience carrying out post mortem examinations of native wildlife.

Is that because Massey is the only vet school in the country?

So do you have any actual knowledge or proof that the 3 vets quoted have any first hand experience with gunshot wounds?

And if they did, how did they get close enough to differentiate it from a puncture wound, from say a bolt holding a dock fender on?

 

This reminds me of the great hallabaluu when the esteemed marine biologist started doing studies of sedimentation rates in the Sandspit marina. Made excellent headlines, only marine biologists have experience with, well biology, and he was drifting into technical areas he knew nothing about. But because he had some sort of qualification people thought he actually knew what he was doing. Those sedimentation studies were fatally flawed, and any engineer having a quick look at them could see why. Still gave the lefty poof tree hugging vegetarians something to go o about for several months. Its like dial an expert, get some great headlines, then quickly ignore any of the underlying facts or if the experts are working within their field of expertise...

 

And after all of that, the damn thing is still alive isn't it?

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We spotted her on her usual dock yesterday.

 

We were tying up next to her. Fear and panic at first. We called the Westhaven office and they came out and helped us. Westhaven staff are totally at ease around her and our fears were quickly put to rest.

 

She is very docile on the dock. Just rolls from side to side and rolls away when you get close.

 

She is scared of humans which is a good thing. I thoroughly enjoyed seeing her up close and would like to see her stay.

 

There are bigger sharks and Orca in our Harbour. The only difference is that they don't come on land and show of their size and teeth. Who in their right mind would shoot an Orca? Don't shoot Happy Teeth she is no different.

 

She looks perfectly healthy.

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Accept you got the wrong generation.

I'm not a boomer.

 

Then why have you got a dog in this fight, you don't berth at Westhaven, or jump in the tide to clean your boat there so what gives? NZ has a long history of seals living along our coastline, all that happened is a few have turned up and this particular one is a charmer :) I accept the dinghy massacre is over the top- not sure how to deal with it but I would also hazard a guess that theres a few ahem non seal upgrades in those figures being tossed about.

 

If youre really that upset by a seal, dont let your kids go into the water- its full of biteys and occasionally the water itself takes lives. What I am saying is live and let live, its a marine animal in a marine environment. Just like the pod of Orcas scaring and thrilling the sh*t out of people up the harbour yesterday. Your logic is shoot them because you are afraid.

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Good to see you have zero idea what you are talking about Mate. Learn to read posts instead of imagining what people said.

I'm not sure what generational aspect you are on about but its got nothing to do with this, looked like a poor attempt at something witty.

 

Where I moor my boat we need dinghies to get from the boat back to the car. Happy teeth has had several up our way. Very very complicated getting off your boat when the dinghy is shredded. Is that OK with you that I hold a view on this? Why do I even need to ask your permission to hold a view?

 

And as for having a dog in this fight, excuse me, my apologies, I didn't realise you were the arbiture of who could hold a view and express it.

My issue in this part of the thread is the LeopardSeal.org people who came out and said a boatie shot it, cause it keeps on eating their dinghy's. That was based on zero evidence. They that followed it up with some spurious 'fact's that so called experts said it had been shot. 

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I am not going to read all your posts, I get the message. You are pretty negative and argumentative about the seal as if it shouldnt be in this environment. Thats the ok boomer moment, treating it as an immigrant when its a creature of the sea that is doing nothing wrong except not heeding your boundaries. As a yachtie I respect the sea and its life forms, I've been circled by a large (massive) shark while in my pvc tender, trust me I was not getting into the piss for a closer look but the seal meh...Ive dived with seals so I am not freaked out as much as some people. The Westhaven staff told me its been around for 9 years, this is its home and if it was going to bite a kid or become mayor of Auckland, it would have done it by  now. The staff even give it toys to play with!  I think its wonderful to see people move from fear to respect for such a magnificent animal. 

 

Ill take their word it was shot, why not? I am not going to bicker over peoples qualifications or what it could be. If someone has shot  or does shoot it I sincerely hope they they will be sprung and fined heavily. 

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Lefty poof tree hugging vegetarians?

Oh ..... just the way to get your point across.......

 

Quite pathetic really - from whatever generation you spring from

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