Kiwifish 30 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 This is the first of many questions, Does anyone have a picture or description of the setup used for mooring connection? Specifically do you use a bridal system? Is it permanently mounted, do you have a bow roller etc etc? Do you use a bridle when anchoring? The previous owner has simply lashed the mooring line to the centre of the front beam. I'm sure a bridle setup would be more suitable and reliable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beccara 25 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 We have two samson post's and run a bridle for our mooring connection, same when we're on anchor we just swap it out for a 3 strand snubber setup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madyottie 82 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 We had a simple bridle permanently attached to each end of the forebeam, with a big shackle in the middle. I used to pull the mooring line up until I could shackle directly to the main rope. Both ends of the bridle were separate lines, so if one broke, the boat was still secure. Anthony also had a third line from the mooring to the main beam, next to the mast for extra security. That said, he was using a fergy buoy, whereas I didn't have such luxury. We only used the boat a handful of times, there was a fairlead thingy on the forebeam which lead the anchor warp, we just tied it off on the mainbeam from there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 capricorn, a modified bucc 24 trimaran uses a bridle on a standard mooring starting from a hard point just fwd of the main beam, a typical 3-strand 15?mm nylon warp goes forward to the bows through a shackle near the bow and then on for a further 2.5? m, terminating with a 12mm snap shackle when sailing both port and stbd bridle lines come back and are snapped onto the tramp lacings near the rear beam when mooring, the float is grabbed and the line brought up on deck, + cleated off then the heavy mooring chain is lifted and the float snap shackles snapped on to a chain link such a point that when dropped they take the mooring loads slightly ahead the mooring buoy line cleated to the deck anchoring is similar the anchor is dropped in 2-5m of water, depending on tide, the boat allowed to drop back about 5 boat lengths then the bridle snap shackles are snapped on to a sliding prusik knot on the anchor warp.....the prusik knot is then slipped along warp until the bridle lines are taking the load, with the main anchor warp a bit slack and she still hunts like a flighty lightweight she is Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifish 30 Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Thanks heaps, that gives me some ideas. I have no bollards or attachment points at the front at all, not even a bow roller or fair lead. Really appreciate the photos cheers erice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 My mooring has a ring with two 3-4m bits of 20-25mm rope coming off, one for each bow. Seems to sit nicely. I aso use a bridal for anchoring. Makes a huge difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 here's another showing the stbd bridle line coming up from the hardpoint fwd of main beam through shackle near bow tip then down into the water to clip onto the mooring chain or prusik knot on the anchor warp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madyottie 82 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 That's interesting Eric. On the tri I just basically moor like a mono, from the main hull. Except I do it twice, one each side,because my prod is fixed and there's a nice bit of 3mm ss wire from the end of the prod to the bottom of the stem, so the two lines pass just clear of it. Doesn't seem to hunt at all. Bounces around a lot in a big Southerly tho ???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 if the strike doesn't hunt, great the bucc24 main hull has a LOT of rocker and Caps beams a LOT of dihedral resulting in a lot of high up windage weathercocking over a relatively small deep pivot i think that's why her swings seem somewhat exaggerated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MartinRF 53 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 You need to move aero center of effort back in the boat. Either that or move centre of gravity and hydro forward. That is what the strange mooring for the AC45s is all about. The former was demonstrated by my brother on a 9 m day sailer trimaran back in the late 1980s. This particular design went through full tacks when on a mooring. My brother stopped this completely by acting as an air drag device by standing on the aft deck and opening his jacket to the wind. If he reduced his air drag by hunching down the tacking started again. My boat is very calm on her mooring but a Corsair 36 nearby is hunting all the time. Furled headsail moves center of air drag forward and sometimes they leave a rolled up screacher up which makes her really lively on her mooring. /Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madyottie 82 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 That makes sense, kinda like towing a drogue in a storm, resistance keeps things pointing in the right direction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifish 30 Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 These pokie upy bits must be there to ensure the aero centre of effort is at the back when on anchor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 they certainly help on my boat! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 autumn sees a mini multihull exodus from auckland voom - going up north sundreamer - maybe going further north + west dragon - going almost all the way north + a lot east Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Id have swapped your easts and wests around eric? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 faaark corrected Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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