Zozza 291 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Fellas, So, such is my distaste for Panuku, I am thinking of putting my money where my mouth is, and keep my soon to be re-launched yacht at Half Moon Bay instead of Westhaven. 10.5m berth rates are about the same per month for each marina, give or take. So putting aside the PHF (Panuku Hate Factor) what are the advantages / disadvantages of each marina for getting out for a decent sail any particular weekend? I have never sailed out of HMB or Tamaki, but it appears to me looking at the chart that when coming out of HMB past Bucks, I will eventually need to do a dog leg to port , then starboard before passing Browns Island to starboard into deeper water, (reverse when coming home) whereas coming out of Westhaven there are no such worries. (My draft is 1.4m). [There looks to be a shortcut through to going past Browns that the Ferry uses - but I am not sure I should be using that shortcut until I get a bit of experience coming in or out of the Tamaki and getting used to the tides in this area....] However, Westhaven I presume will just be busier with a higher idiot factor of people using that stretch of water.....more ferries, more powerboats, more freighters, more jetskis...more of all that stuff which can go 'crunchy crunch' against your hull. Six of one half dozen of the other? Be keen to hear the experienced CrewDotOrgers opinions.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Young Entertainer 59 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 1.4m I would not worry about getting in and out or Halfmoon bay, except on the very low tides if you want to go between Music Pt and Browns island. We get through on a .6 at 1.8m so you should be good down to a .2. It is well marked and has you pointing at the islands in no time. Going the long way round when you need to you wont have any issues at that depth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 291 Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 ok cheers Rawhide, so apart from springs low for a short while, the Musick Pt shortcut is perfectly acceptable.....good to hear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Young Entertainer 59 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Yep only thing to look out for is on the last red stick as you leave don't cut the corner as there is a big rock just inside it. Low tide you will see it sticking out, my rule of thumb was if that rock breaks the surface then the depth is marginal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 640 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 The only issue using the Musik Pt channel is that the launches have no regard for 5knts rule,go through anytime except 1hr before/after spring/king low,as above if the rock shows by the pole marginal,when in/or out on low tides keep 100/200metres away from poles and you find its soft mud,any closer and its a shell bank.Spent an hour there once grinding the shells and not one A hole slowed down,if in doubt follow the ferry track. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 291 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Is this the rock everyone is saying not to cut the corner on.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dagwood 57 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Is this the rock everyone is saying not to cut the corner on.... Nope, next port hand mark on the way in. Rock lies just to the South of the mark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Zozza 291 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Nope, next port hand mark on the way in. Rock lies just to the South of the mark. This one then.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dagwood 57 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 This one then.......... Yeap, I'm old enough to remember the mark being installed on the rock which regularly caused issues when the corner was cut a little too finely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 291 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Righto, thanks Dagwood, So, here is my safe passage in our out (draft is 1.4m) Seems pretty simple...why would you risk cutting any corners to save a few minutes..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 291 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Or perhaps this.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 291 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Actually, no, my second "safe" passage can't be right,as I'm then going south of a northerly pointing cardinal mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,211 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 First pic. 2nd is a recipe for walking home.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 291 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Actually why is that northerly cardinal mark have a green light then? That doesn't make sense...or have I lost the plot. Green to port as your leaving Harbour, but the Cardinal mark means you would want that cardinal mark to starboard leaving. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 291 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 First pic. 2nd is a recipe for walking home.... So why is it marked Green? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 291 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Ooh hold on, it's not a cardinal mark as only has one arrow - but still doesn't make sense why it is green Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmiker 15 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 So why is it marked Green? your second route is the one that is commonly used and the one that I used to use at low tide. A chart with higher detail will show you.. Unfortunately I can't work out how to post a screen shot from mine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,211 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Here it is at larger scale Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 291 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 your second route is the one that is commonly used and the one that I used to use at low tide. A chart with higher detail will show you.. Unfortunately I can't work out how to post a screen shot from mine Right. IT says though that my second route is "a recipe for walking home"... However, do I have it right that the one arrow mark with green light is saying you can pass to starboard or port when leaving harbour, but leaving it to starboard is is the "preferred" passage. Has to be. Otherwise the chart is wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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