Island Time 1,235 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Preferred channel to me looks like between the N and S cardinals.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chariot 243 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 The blue line is drawn through the G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 293 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Here it is at larger scale pic2.png Right. So that is it then. Its the preferred passage leaving the arrow to starboard, though if you have a draft of less than 1.2m you can make it through the shortcut at springs low Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 293 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Hold on....even following IT suggestion to go between the two cardinal marks.........any way you cut it, this larger scale chart IT put here is telling me that if I have a 1.4m draft, then at springs low I could well go aground no matter what route I take..........there's 1.2m in places and 1.3m in places.... Guess I could always go the long way round on opposite side of river and never have to worry about it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmiker 15 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Hold on....even following IT suggestion to go between the two cardinal marks.........any way you cut it, this larger scale chart IT put here is telling me that if I have a 1.4m draft, then at springs low I could well go aground no matter what route I take..........there's 1.2m in places and 1.3m in places.... Guess I could always go the long way round on opposite side of river and never have to worry about it Well seen a few boat crews there having a cuppa while waiting for the water to come back... But generally its all good albeit narrow... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Zozza, Your second route is correct. DO NOT attempt the first at any tide - I have walked a fair distance between the two channels! To avoid confusion - in my screen shot - green route is okay - brown route is not. ( the north route is also okay but suggest you study it - in person!) It’s far less scary when you are passing through than depicted on the charts - straight lining the Bouys is quite normal! The north channel is also quite easy to pass at mid to high tide but suggest you motor through it first to u derstmad the angles. Spend a few hours observing this piece of water and you’ll fall in love with it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 293 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Zozza, Your second route is correct. DO NOT attempt the first at any tide - I have walked a fair distance between the two channels! To avoid confusion - in my screen shot - green route is okay - brown route is not. ( the north route is also okay but suggest you study it - in person!) It’s far less scary when you are passing through than depicted on the charts - straight lining the Bouys is quite normal! The north channel is also quite easy to pass at mid to high tide but suggest you motor through it first to u derstmad the angles. Spend a few hours observing this piece of water and you’ll fall in love with it! Scottie, mate, thanks heaps! However, I just went back through my postings on this thread, and I swear IT said my second route was a recipe for walking home!? But you are saying 2nd was correct. Dissension in the ranks of CrewDotOrgers! Thanks again Scottie - I will study this piece of water, and might even see if I can find a boat that goes out that way so that I can observe close up, before I go out in my own boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dagwood 57 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Scotti's route is correct. The cardinals are generally used by traffic transiting east / west, South of Browns Island, not entering the river. The Sealink ferries will use the western channel and pass Browns Island to Starboard (when exiting) at certain low tides as there is generally a bit more water on that side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 293 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Scotti's route is correct. The cardinals are generally used by traffic transiting east / west, South of Browns Island, not entering the river. The Sealink ferries will use the western channel and pass Browns Island to Starboard (when exiting) at certain low tides as there is generally a bit more water on that side. Thanks Dagwood. Ok, so anything other than low springs, my 1.4m draft should be ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 154 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 This Half Moon Bay is pretty tricky too . . https://moonblink.info/File/Pictures/Sailing/HalfMoonBay Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Young Entertainer 59 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 It is all straight forward when you see it for real , stick to the red marks, don't cut the last one and you will be fine. The cardinal markers on the north side are used by the ferries to get from Pine Harbour to Westhaven, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 392 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Crikey, Halfmoon Bay looks like a navigation intelligence test. No such issues at Westhaven. The choice of marina for me is to avoid the tyranny of distance from my princess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I'm surprised no one has comment on the relative merits of car parking at each marina... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chariot 243 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 If you want to see how the chanel is marked and watch boats passing through take a walk up to Musick Point on Sunday afternoon and it will all become very clear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dagwood 57 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 If you want to see how the chanel is marked and watch boats passing through take a walk up to Musick Point on Sunday afternoon and it will all become very clear. Just ignore a surprising number of the fizzy's. There are some who have no clue and are saved by an extraordinary amount of dumb luck and a relatively shallow draft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 642 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Spring low use St helliers entrance.watch if you can to see which way sea link goes.pine harbourferry goes between the cardinals but you must be dead centre.spring low you will touch.cav26 touched spring low or when rock showing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cj! 19 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Another thing to consider is where you want to sail most often and the time to get there. Many years ago we shifted from Half Moon Bay to Pine Harbour even though HMB was only a few minutes down the road as the total time to get to the bottom end, Noisies, etc. was much better from Pine Harbour even including the drive out to PH. Think about where you want to sail most and how long the drive is if you want to duck down to the boat to do work on it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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