waikiore 398 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Well now that world sailing has committed to this class as the his and hers keelboat/trailer sailor who has ordered one fom NZ? I see that they have already discarded the electric saildrive as not suitable for other than European Lakes and reverted to a conventional Yanmar saildrive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 What's an L30? Link? Hyandai make an i30.....? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 511 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Twin wheels on a 30 footer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 http://www.l30class.com/en/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 398 Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 Yes far rather have a tiller myself, and save the weight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I'm a little confused as to why they wouldn't go with an existing and established offshore class. The Figaro 3 springs to mind, and looks a hell of a lot more interesting and challenging to sail well. I'm sure there are other examples of existing one design classes about. The L30 doesn't really get me excited at any level. It looks like the shortest offering of fairly much any large production builder in Europe. Many have more exciting models on offer. I'd rate a Ross 930 as much as anything over the L30. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 398 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 They are not pretty and i dare say the Figaro is a lot quicker but I have seen them advertised for 92000 Euro and lets face it you can get around the "Auckland" cost of yachting by hauling it out. Hopefully they are quicker than an 88 though i doubt it on the wind, as the current First 30 proved to be a big disappointment when built with basic production methods. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philstar 61 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I wonder what it weigh's can't find anything on the website. Like the elan its probably quite a bit heavier and thus slower than our local boats like the R930, Y88. Twin wheels is stupid on a boat so small ! They just clutter the cotpit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,214 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1820 kg 790 in keel. Polars are impressive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 365 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Check the promo videos by the designer on YouTube they were made quite some time ago before the olympics hoopla . Seems a bit quicker than a 930 or a Y88 . Still ugly , still strange but has a few clever features Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 387 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Agree with this summary, designed for a crew not solo or two handed. 2.5m beam not exactly a fanger. http://interestingsailboats.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philstar 61 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 That's quite a bit lighter than I expectyed and lighter than the elan which is around 2800kg. Short rig tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kick Ass 47 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 That's quite a bit lighter than I expectyed and lighter than the elan which is around 2800kg. Short rig tho Elan is much heavier than 2800kg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrahl 6 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 You really think they could come up with something better than this. Even the Europeans are crying that is a step down from the lemons they are used to in this size range. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 372 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1820 kg 790 in keel. Polars are impressive. I’d say that’s bloody light. The pogo 30 is 2800 - which suddenly seems heavy cf. a R930 at 2200. Our p36 is 3800, but it’s a considerably bigger boat. Still lighter than a sunfast 3600 but o wonder how that fits in the grand scheme of things?. Josh, what does your 1050 tip the scales at? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B00B00 310 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Motorboat is somewhere around 3900kg. Sunfast was 4950kg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Motorboat is somewhere around 3900kg. That doesn't sound right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B00B00 310 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Why not? Did you think it would be heavier or lighter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markm 30 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Would expect 3,900 isn't far off the mark, four in the ORC database and only XLR8 isn't within 100kg of that. Very vague memory is that XLR8 is a bit of a different 10.5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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