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Im sure the Maoris, aboriginal Australians and native Americans among many peoples of this fair earth would have a few comments on the irony of European boat people who invaded their land now bitterly complaining about “illegal immigration” and from countries those same Europeans have blown up.

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Applying something evenly and equally sounds a bit like socialism, doesn't it?

 

I do some work with a group of now young adults who have had too many of their mates self-harm and kill themselves. Some of the mindless stupid utter filth vomit inducing crap comments, self-interested intolerance and shithouse reading skills that causes so much harm to those kids, and all other NZers, to do that is being mirrored far to accurately by a couple of posters in this thread.

 

Call it what you may, just make sure you don't join them................ nor question them by the looks of it.

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Im sure the Maoris, aboriginal Australians and native Americans among many peoples of this fair earth would have a few comments on the irony of European boat people who invaded their land now bitterly complaining about “illegal immigration” and from countries those same Europeans have blown up.

Yup, the height of historical irony considering the unfolding scenario of terra nullius after Cook planted the a flag of self assumed universal ownership whilst the local residents watched out of range from his firesticks. 

One has to wonder regarding the plight of today's refugees what sort of reception would we receive if we were to wash up on their shores seeking respite and relief.

Considerably different would be my opinion and seeing that they have been historically on the receiving end of the colonial wrecking ball of avarice and racism it shows that the dominant have little real access to or understanding of the moral high ground.

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Any member may question the opinion of any other member, but you may not abuse the other member. If you dont agree, you are free to say you don't agree WITH THEIR POINT OF VIEW, but you may not call THEM stupid, uneducated, etc etc. Play the topic , not the person. If you cannot manage to control yourself and abide by this simple rule, please move on.

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Here is a bit of insight into the other aspects of this new Italian law that started this thread:

 

Parts of the recently introduced measure are unrelated to migration, but instead focus on "public order and security", increasing penalties for assault on members of the security forces and envisaging fines of up to 6,000 euros ($6,700) for people who hide their faces to avoid being identified during political demonstrations.

 

These Italian politicians are going straight for the right to protest. You don't like us? you want to protest against us? we will identify you, track you down, and make your life hell. Very much like the several hundred that were charged with 'rioting' at trump's swearing in thingee, only they blocked off all exists from an area, corralled everyone in there including onlookings and press, and charged everyone with rioting. A fellony offence with long jail terms. Slowly ground everyone down over several years to either accept a plea bargain, or be locked up for 15 years plus. Sole purpose, to stop protests and public displays of discontent with the President. That wee incident had nothing to do with rioting.

 

It is the same system Egypt uses to quell discontent, Lock up Morsi (the first freely elected Eygptian President), let his family see him 3 times in 6 years, not give him any medical assistance, oh dear, he's dead. - So, anyone else want to stand as opposition to the current Eygptian president? (at risk of being locked up without charge in solitary confinement for years) No... But here is the rub, the current Eygptian president (change or replace any other dodgy country) can stand and win a 'democratic election'. They just make sure there is no descent opposition.

 

The rest of the article at the below link gives a good account of the illigality of what Italy is doing, why the dodgy pollies are doing it, and what is actaully going on with migrants from Libya this year.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/06/lives-isn-crime-italy-slammed-security-decree-190618180019033.html

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A lot of what people are saying here about boat people and migration is based on fear. How about a real life example of a Turkish city that took in 1/3 of its population in Syrian refugees and despite obvious challenges is flourishing.

 

“More European countries need to step up to the plate, like Germany did, and agree to take more. It’s not a burden to take refugees. Migration has always been a good thing and a driver for development.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/jun/19/gaziantep-turkish-city-successfully-absorbed-half-a-million-migrants-from-syria

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