Priscilla II 392 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 https://www.trademe.co.nz/trade-me-motors/boats-marine/yachts/keeler/auction-2454051082.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raz88 96 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Is there a question there? Was built (or finished from hull/decks?) by David Wade in sandspit. Saw him on it last summer at barrier and had a chat with him about it. Was for sale complete for quite a long time at a fairly high price. Not sure why it has no rig in the photos - whether he's removed it for his new boat or there's another story. Cool boat, but Dave may have his work cut out for him trying to sell for $150k in bits and needing (re)finishing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 392 Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 Is there a question there? Whoops pre Xmas idiocy has turned me into one. Raz it is a interesting situation where a owner cannibalises a low hour build to use the bits I presume like rig sails engine hardware etc to devote to another new build. The guy must have done the sums but the other Blakewell listed is not that far north of that asking price and it’s ready to rock & roll. https://www.tradeaboat.co.nz/detail/bakewellwhite-38-751106 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushMan 31 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Is there a question there? Whoops pre Xmas idiocy has turned me into one. Raz it is a interesting situation where a owner cannibalises a low hour build to use the bits I presume like rig sails engine hardware etc to devote to another new build. The guy must have done the sums but the other Blakewell listed is not that far north of that asking price and it’s ready to rock & roll. https://www.tradeaboat.co.nz/detail/bakewellwhite-38-751106 This one has the hinge for lowering the mast to get under bridges. Very useful feature for Perth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 392 Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 Must be a intelligence test that I have failed miserably, how does that work. Great boat though a tiller instead of that wheel of fortune would be my pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,220 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 The silver 45 deg bit is a hinge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushMan 31 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Must be a intelligence test that I have failed miserably, how does that work. Great boat though a tiller instead of that wheel of fortune would be my pick. A6063F2C-49A8-46B0-944B-B8A8B1D24BCF.png Attach two spinnaker poles to strong points out wide, poles attach to a large ring and a 4:1 (or greater) pulley system which runs aft to a winch. Use some halyards to take the pressure off the forestay, move forestay to the large ring. Undo the bolts at the front of the hinge and start to lower the mast. Apply some pressure on the backstay to get the mast moving aft, then let gravity do the rest. Rate of descent is controlled by the winch. For a higher degree of difficulty all of this is done while motoring on a river shared by large power boats which don't follow the No Wake rules! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushMan 31 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Cole 32... Mast head rig, approaching the bridges, ready to drop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushMan 31 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Farr 9.2 (?) fractional rig, much easier to grind back to vertical The 60' Siska was the biggest I saw with a mast hinge (Stupid iPad must know I am from down under) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushMan 31 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Mast support when mast is lowered far enough to clear the bridges Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 392 Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 Crikey I have seen the tabernacle and gin pole system before but that stainless hinge is a beauty. Be a friggin PITA to go for a days sail if you had to do that operation twice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raz88 96 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 That's pretty cool rushman! I think the z39 is a newer design and hijinx is only a couple of years old so maybe not a fair comparison with the other one? Still going to be hard to find someone who wants to pay $150k for a project. Compared to something like a 2 year old 40 foot j boat I suppose it seems a great deal. But compared to most racer/cruisers for sale here that are a bit older, it's hard to imagine paying 150k for it. Pretty boy Floyd was for sale recently for around 100k. Not sure what sort of interior it had, but probably quicker than a z39 and was complete and ready to go. If I were buying I know what I'd choose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushMan 31 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Luckily most yachts sail on the river OR offshore, although some may move between locations for a series but will be berthed at the host club for the duration. Lowering the mast is usually only done once on any given day, The Farr was based at Fremantle for the winter series, the Cole was heading to Rottnest Island for a couple of weeks cruising. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank 157 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Considering the time money and passion put into that vessel you can understand wanting to recover at least the materials cost. Unfortunately the market seems to be brutal on unfinished boats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rats 28 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Dont understand the thinking here. Take all of the good bits of the boat and then try and sell it while keeping all to good bits to use on the new build. Why would you not sell the boat complete which is far more attractive to any potential buyer and get more up to date good bits for the new build. I think this boats gonna be on the market a long time with that sort of ask and oh by the way you have to buy a new rig etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 392 Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 ‘Unfortunately the market seems to be brutal on unfinished boats.’ Pretty damned brutal on completed ones too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marinheiro 352 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Luckily most yachts sail on the river OR offshore, although some may move between locations for a series but will be berthed at the host club for the duration. Lowering the mast is usually only done once on any given day, The Farr was based at Fremantle for the winter series, the Cole was heading to Rottnest Island for a couple of weeks cruising. I remember sailing on a Cole 40(aluminium) out of SoPYC, even with the same system dropping her mast was interesting. I heard Tasker's Siska IV, the 70 something footer that won the Parmelia race also had a drop mast, lowering that would have been an event! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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