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11 minutes ago, Chrisc said:

Lots of grey areas with these regulations. Supposedly we are not allowed to go kayaking for an hour or two because (1) it is assumed that we would have to drive our kayaks down to the beach and that is not permitted and (2) the Coastguard would get a bit peeved if they had to come and rescue us. 

The reality.

Our kayaking activities are for exercise and  limited to the Whangamata harbour which is 30m from our front door thereby eliminating the  need for a car, and secondly, if we did capsize , if the kayak disintegrated or suddenly disappeared in a puff of smoke,  well  we'd just walk home. Apart from a very narrow channel it's hard  to find more than 1.4m of water in our harbour so I don't think  we'd be in any position to give the coastguard any employment.     So what to do?

And cycling, which we are looking forward to doing on almost empty roads.  So we are allowed to cycle in our local area. What does that mean? Just in our street, in our village,  in the Coromandel area? My interpretation of 'local area' is that I can cycle where I want so long as the ride concludes at the start point (my home)  and that I do not stop along the route, associate with any other person or visit any premises. Sounds reasonable to me but I bet you a pound to a pinch of goat sh*t that I'm wrong..

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16 minutes ago, Chrisc said:

Lots of grey areas with these regulations. Supposedly we are not allowed to go kayaking for an hour or two because (1) it is assumed that we would have to drive our kayaks down to the beach and that is not permitted and (2) the Coastguard would get a bit peeved if they had to come and rescue us. 

The reality.

Our kayaking activities are for exercise and  limited to the Whangamata harbour which is 30m from our front door thereby eliminating the  need for a car, and secondly, if we did capsize , if the kayak disintegrated or suddenly disappeared in a puff of smoke,  well  we'd just walk home. Apart from a very narrow channel it's hard  to find more than 1.4m of water in our harbour so I don't think  we'd be in any position to give the coastguard any employment.     So what to do?

Can see the logic of one rule for all even though we live in vastly different landscapes . Fishing off the Seawall at the tank farm in auck wouldn’t go over very Well , yet you could fish off the rocks up here in certain places and no one would see you fishing , let alone driving or walking out there . It would take months to make rules for every district scenario 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Priscilla II said:

Stay at home as much as possible pretty clear and simple really.

Its a no brainer for this to have any chance of success you must limit your movements and confine yourself to your home.

Yet exercise is permitted, and kayaking and cycling are two activities where the possibility of interaction with others is non existent. Far more so than walking to keep fit where there is the constant chance of meeting your neighbours. 

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2 hours ago, harrytom said:

Would this be ok.  Due to no driving lessons,can or would I be able to take my son(who lives in same house)out for a lesson or 2.If we do  not stop(get out of car) would that be ok??

I do not see a problem but some might.

No. It wouldn’t be ok. Stay at home. 

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11 minutes ago, Puff said:

What’s Grey about “stay at home”?

Are we allowed out to exercise whilst  maintaining social distancing or not? According to what I've read we are. True?

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Crikey what part of stay at home are you people not getting.

The message is crystal clear stay at home.

If unfortunately you ignore this instruction you may well die along with all the innocent persons who will perish due to your ignorance.

 

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While I disagree with some of these rules, or more to the point, I'm just disappointing I can't go sailing, now is not a time to be second guessing, now is the time to be compliant.

The powers that be are trying to achieve something for our benefit, they don't need a load of back-chat and BS. I got dropped into Chch the morning after the quake, and spent the next 10 days working to assess critical (life sustaining) infrastructure, and get what we could to function again. I learnt in Chch, in a time of crisis, everyone knows best, everyone wants to lead. But for the collective group to get through, people have to shut up, bight there tongue, and work in unison with who-ever is deemed in charge. Often, in those situations (crisis), the person deemed in charge had less experience, was less senior, or was just outright not as smart as me. But the way it works is, they make a decision, and everyone, including you, follows it. It may not be the best decision. It may not have considered all the available information, it may not suit your world view, but any decision is better than no decision at all, and the collective need is to fall in behind, shut up and do it. The collective need is to work together for a common goal. Not individual conveniences.

The consequences here and now are a breakdown of society, a descent into complete anarchy. That is why a state of emergency has been declared, and why the army is on standby to impose order. This is exactly why America has already sold out of hand guns. Their leaders are arguing. Everyone has a better idea and are pulling in their own direction, Each side is trying to push their own world view. Specialists in America are already saying the next 2 weeks are critical, or it will take them 10 yrs to get over this pandemic. Millions will die, and their economy will collapse, as in not ever be recoverable. This is the reality of the 'worst case scenario'. 

The messaging couldn't be clearer. Stay in your home. Only travel (anywhere) for the necessities of life. Not for recreation. Not for convenience. For the necessities of life.

We've only got one shot at this.

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There are 135  intensive care units in Nz and 40 post operative beds available in Auckland.

These facilities are the only access to life supporting ventilators so please don’t intentionally block access to these vital resources with your purely selfish ill informed foolish belief that a quick fish sail kayak  whatever is ok.
This is serious sh*t and thousands may die.

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