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3 minutes ago, Puff said:

I think you’re in for a surprise. I doubt she will be able to just jump on a boat with you

have you read that you aren’t supposed to move once you have anchored except For the safety of the vessel. 

- I see no reason why our home is not suitable to be an isolation zone.  Inherently more isolated than a block of flats.

- I have been looking at the "official" Covid19 website and can see nothing about cruising yachts.  I have been told Coastguard are telling people what to do.  They can just f*ck off.

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6 minutes ago, Dtwo said:

- I see no reason why our home is not suitable to be an isolation zone.  Inherently more isolated than a block of flats.

- I have been looking at the "official" Covid19 website and can see nothing about cruising yachts.  I have been told Coastguard are telling people what to do.  They can just f*ck off.

I think the coastguard is the least of your problems

 

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9 hours ago, Dtwo said:

- I see no reason why our home is not suitable to be an isolation zone.  Inherently more isolated than a block of flats.

- I have been looking at the "official" Covid19 website and can see nothing about cruising yachts.  I have been told Coastguard are telling people what to do.  They can just f*ck off.

Let the class know how wife got on at the border,be interested as the news never tells the truth.

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I posted a log reply earlier and found I was not logged on. It has disappeared into the system and hopefully IT will find it and post it fpr me.
In the meantime, Thought this was interestingly helpful:

The following is from Irene Ken physician, whose daughter is an Asst. Prof in infectious diseases at Johns Hopkins University.
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* The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (RNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation) and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells.

* Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.

* The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy, because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20 seconds or more, to make a lot of foam).

By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own.

* HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 25 degrees Celsius for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.

* Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.

* Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaks it down from the inside.

* Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it hurts your skin.

* NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive.

* NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only
-between 3 hours (fabric and porous),
-4 hours (copper and wood)
-24 hours (cardboard),
- 42 hours (metal) and
-72 hours (plastic).

But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.

* The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars.

They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.

* UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.

* The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.

* Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.

* NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%.

* LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.

* The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.

* You have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.

* You have to HUMIDIFY HANDS DRY from so much washing them, because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.

* Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.

-JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL

Stay safe everyone!

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Wheels: This is an odd combination of pretty accurate stuff (as far as I can see) and stuff that's non-standard if not just wrong. I'm not a doc or a boffin. I'm a journalist who has been covering this sort of thing for a long time.  

To me, the odd part is right at the top. Any doctor ought to know that RNA is a polymeric molecule composed of nucleic acids, NOT a protein. The virus -- like all viruses -- hijacks the mechanism of its target cells to make copies of itself but that's not usually described as a "mutation." And while the target cells ( those that have a molecule known as angiotensin converting enzyme on their surface) do begin making copies of the virus, they aren't really converted into "aggressor and multiplier cells" -- they just keep pumping out copies of the virus and eventually are disrupted, spilling new viral particles out into the body to start the whole process again.

BUT the stuff about how long the virus lasts on a surface is from a US study that was just published (in the New England Journal of Medicine, if I recall rightly) and it's certainly true that antibiotics are of no help whatsoever (for any viral infection). And the stuff about lipids and hand washing and so on is all fine. 

 

regards

MS

 

 

 

 

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