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2 hours ago, Sailing NZ said:

Here's what I would do...

Straight of the top of my head.( So full of mistakes probably) but may be better than Jacindas plan?

1. Secure our borders. all incoming passengers are put into a hotel/ area and tested strait away. If clear thet are sent to 28 day isolation with 24/7 monitoring and reporting by phone. If not clear. 28days isolation in hotel/ ?

2. Tell police to monitor everytown 24/7 and fine offenders driving with more than on person in vehicle. And remove vehicles from multiple offenders.

 

3. Call in militaryback up police and deliver food to noncompliants and check they are at home.

4. Use army roadblocks to secure each town/ region. To stop transfer. Only food, Meds, fuel, emergency,  allowed. 

5. Remove all tourists asap and make them pay for their evacuation 

6. Asap ..Close border to all kiwis except healthy medical professionals.

7. Change 2M rule to 6M rule.

8. As each town/ region clears, borders are kept closed until a nieghbour town is cleared. Free to travel within cleared towns is permitted

9. Free tests for everybody.

10. If possible military to do street by street house by house testing in worst affected cities.

11.direct all scientist to develop a vaccine. Can we trust the rest of the world will supply us???

Agree with all that except 2&7. 2 being 2 instead off 1 7, being 3m instead off 6. Most s markets isles r not 7 m wide. The ques would stretch to far and probably on to uncovered walkways.

Good to see additions to plan A instead off cristisms with no contribution what they would do. 

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I thought the idea was we vote the govt in and support what they do until we don't then we vote them out?

Who we replace them with is moot.

I'd  raise my hand if you as a fellow Kiwi needed a hand, but not if it involves anarchy and guns.

Your above list has merit for plan B with adjustments.

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2 hours ago, Sailing NZ said:

Yip agree, but while C19 is not a killer inn big % of population it is the cumulative affect of another virus that kills added to the others... Then there is the mutation to C19+ and whatever that does .

By the way, isn't there a good case to charge China With Genocide? And make them pay the worlds bill for this?... 🤔😜😁

 

As Germany did after the War.

They would laugh in your face and say

"a few hundred thousand deaths to the Wuhan Coronavirus - pfftft.  Mao dispensed with 65 million in the great march! You wanna talk genocide - that's genocide!"

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11 minutes ago, ScottiE said:

  Mao dispensed with 65 million in the great march! You wanna talk genocide - that's genocide!"

That is not remotely true - by orders of magnitude. 

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Did anyone see tv1?? news about arriving passengers at AK airport last night.

Most appeared to just walk out and go their own way.  Jacinda said they will be tracked via their cell phones,but only IF they agree to be tracked

Next statement come from her that the police have been having issues with their tracking system but up and running now.

Which reminds did DWTO get his wife safely,as he bringing  boat to Mahurangi.

 

NOW can some one please explain how we got a MINISTER of Health who is not even a qualified practitioner but rather a priest??

Clark moved to Dunedin to study at the University of Otago. He initially studied medicine but abandoned that in favour of pursuing degrees in theology and philosophy. Clark also studied theology and philosophy at Eberhard Karls University in Tübingen.[1][2]

Ordained in 1997, Clark is a Presbyterian minister.[3] He worked as the Assistant Minister at St Lukes Presbyterian Church in Auckland.[2] He was the celebrant at the civil union of MP Grant Robertson.[3] Clark later returned to the University of Otago and completed a PhD on the work of German/New Zealand refugee and existentialist thinker Helmut Herbert Hermann Rex. He has also worked as a Treasury analyst and the warden of Selwyn College at the University of Otago

 

 

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9 minutes ago, harrytom said:

Did anyone see tv1?? news about arriving passengers at AK airport last night.

Most appeared to just walk out and go their own way.  Jacinda said they will be tracked via their cell phones,but only IF they agree to be tracked

Next statement come from her that the police have been having issues with their tracking system but up and running now.

Which reminds did DWTO get his wife safely,as he bringing  boat to Mahurangi.

 

NOW can some one please explain how we got a MINISTER of Health who is not even a qualified practitioner but rather a priest??

Clark moved to Dunedin to study at the University of Otago. He initially studied medicine but abandoned that in favour of pursuing degrees in theology and philosophy. Clark also studied theology and philosophy at Eberhard Karls University in Tübingen.[1][2]

Ordained in 1997, Clark is a Presbyterian minister.[3] He worked as the Assistant Minister at St Lukes Presbyterian Church in Auckland.[2] He was the celebrant at the civil union of MP Grant Robertson.[3] Clark later returned to the University of Otago and completed a PhD on the work of German/New Zealand refugee and existentialist thinker Helmut Herbert Hermann Rex. He has also worked as a Treasury analyst and the warden of Selwyn College at the University of Otago

 

 

Mind blowing stupidity. Both counts.

Airport monitoring from the outset has been mismanaged and we will pay for it.

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15 minutes ago, harrytom said:

NOW can some one please explain how we got a MINISTER of Health who is not even a qualified practitioner but rather a priest??

Easy - Cindy thought that anyone with Dr in front of their name is a medical doctor, not knowing that the required qualification for a NZ trained doctor is a Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery (MBChB) plus the required hospital residency experience.

We are only in the second week of this lockdown and the government is fast losing its goodwill with the public for all the reasons stated previously. Whilst not an earth shaking event the folding of Bauer Media NZ has seen such misrepresentations from the government that even one of Cindy's cheer leaders, the air headed Herald columnist Lizzie Marvelly is being openly critical (amongst others)

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/04/lizzie_gets_it.html

To call this shower of a government a bunch of muppets is insulting to Kermit, Miss Piggy et al

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43 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

That is not remotely true - by orders of magnitude. 

I'm busy right now and can't stand the WaPo frankly, but as a left wing china sympathising mouth piece it'll serve for now - will find the other lost souls later.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/08/03/giving-historys-greatest-mass-murderer-his-due/

 

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46 minutes ago, harrytom said:

Did anyone see tv1?? news about arriving passengers at AK airport last night.

Most appeared to just walk out and go their own way.  Jacinda said they will be tracked via their cell phones,but only IF they agree to be tracked

Next statement come from her that the police have been having issues with their tracking system but up and running now.

Which reminds did DWTO get his wife safely,as he bringing  boat to Mahurangi.

 

NOW can some one please explain how we got a MINISTER of Health who is not even a qualified practitioner but rather a priest??

Clark moved to Dunedin to study at the University of Otago. He initially studied medicine but abandoned that in favour of pursuing degrees in theology and philosophy. Clark also studied theology and philosophy at Eberhard Karls University in Tübingen.[1][2]

Ordained in 1997, Clark is a Presbyterian minister.[3] He worked as the Assistant Minister at St Lukes Presbyterian Church in Auckland.[2] He was the celebrant at the civil union of MP Grant Robertson.[3] Clark later returned to the University of Otago and completed a PhD on the work of German/New Zealand refugee and existentialist thinker Helmut Herbert Hermann Rex. He has also worked as a Treasury analyst and the warden of Selwyn College at the University of Otago

 

 

Looking at those Qualifications it might work out better if we left him to bike riding. Less chance if a Twitford then!

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