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Here is a good article on Corona-V testing which tried to do some randomizing . . 

The two studies, in Santa Clara county, and LA county 

got really harshly criticized by the stats guys - but it is instructive as to what mistakes can be made. 


And I did not know this . .  

 the National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have their own large serological surveys underway for Covid-19. NIH is recruiting up to 10,000 volunteers across the US. The CDC is also conducting a national survey, as well as targeting Covid-19 hot spots and people at higher risk of exposure to the virus.

There is no definite timeline for when these studies will wrap, but they stand to yield a sharper picture of the spread of the new coronavirus. And from there, health officials can start to focus on how to let things go back to normal.

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I have read some very strange things about covid.  So first, yes it's real. And yes if you read reputable medical information you will probably be closer to the truth than a lot of other sources.

It’s a chance for horse face to put her ugly mug on tv every day now and the sheeple will Lao it up , perfect for re electing this clueless under performing team for the finishing touches on screwing

I don't agree and if you read the rest of what she said, she explains about the tolerance. IMO the govt have done a pretty good job at this point, in a difficult situation, with the resources we

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our big clusters (barring those in rest homes) have mostly followed a shared pattern: a ‘seed event’, where one person has infected another 15 or 20, usually in situations involving alcohol, and lots of repeat close contact over a long period of time.

Then those 20 people go home to unwittingly infect workmates and colleagues. 


New Zealand’s five biggest clusters have come at a school, a wedding, a pub, a conference and a rest home.

If, say, a month ago you had pressed Hendy to predict where our clusters might be, he probably would have picked those sorts of locations.

Actually, he would also have expected some at major events, like rock concerts or sports fixtures.

We’ve been lucky in that regard, he says. Lucky too, not to have one overwhelmingly large cluster like the South Koreans(500people)


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18 hours ago, marinheiro said:

there is a bit more to this story than the quote above. 


Always two sides to every story, thanks.

Pity journalists are not more concerned with truth than sensation.

Although, I have little doubt that Trumps involvement with veterans welfare is more to do with his political gain

than any humanitarian attribute.

You don't need a fact checker to establish Trumps MO.

Starting with his taxes.

The republican rank and file care more about being in power than the merit of the person they vote for.


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8 hours ago, ScottiE said:

AJ - these are for you. A little long but these two ER doctors are pretty clear on what they think of this panic-demic

Data data data!




Thanks, I'll get right on it !! 

Wowser, those stat guys (& gals) are in numbers heaven 

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wow, even Stuff is now publishing pieces questioning Cindy's lies and mis-representations


Meanwhile, comparing with Australia (data date 25 April) shows that apart from the 2 major outbreak states (NSW & TAS) they have generally done better than NZ without completely closing their economy. Note the rankings have some contradictions, look at the data. Sources Worldometers and



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