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I need a tractor for general farm use.

I see some dirt shifting needed but getting a FEL equipped is easy so all good there. I need to be able to run a 600-800mm post hole borer off the PTO. Apart from that the rest of the use would be the usual running a mower then shift some hay and gear around like stuff. Not going to be hard out big busy farm use but more than a life style (or as someone called them recently a 'life sentence block' :) ) block would get.

A back hoe would be nice but the neighbour has a big excavator he's OK with me using..... until he actually sees me using it I suspect, I've never used one that large before.

What sort of Hp should I be looking for?

I saw a sweet MF240 last week. Great condition, done 6000hrs, has a quick clip on loader, PTO, 2WD and I think it's 46hp. Asking $14500.00.

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Post hole borers dont require a lot of power to run.   The size of your mower will matter the most for HP and if you re mowing on hills as well? 

 

Massey Ferguson are a good choice of brand.  Toyota of the tractor world,  reliably boring.  The Internationals like the 374 and 474 would be worth a look as well. 

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Don't discount the kubota's, to all intents and purposes they are near bullet proof. Ring around "locally" and i'm sure there will be a suitable one available, implements too, within a mile radius, borrow, hire, buy? country folk generally are wonderful community people. Become one, many ex Auckland folk re-locating think the country works the same as the city they have left behind, it doesn't.  local 4316 / 4317 / 4318 phone numbers will get the older generation who if nothing else will tell you who to contact.

 

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I'm more a buy the product rather than the brand sort of a person. But I learned and have spent a lot of time on MF's so have a wee spot for them. I even used a now classic MF135 to unintentionally make a new gate in one of the Uncles hedges, much to his displeasure.

Anyone know anything about Kioti gear? One of the no name brands out of china or india by the looks. Just wondering if they are like Ssangyongs which are Mercedes wearing a Korean made dress. The Kiotis have pretty sharp pricing with a new 44hp complete with bucket and back hoe for 34K. Also a 4 year warrentee so someone's pretty confident they won't crap out in a few weeks. 

Agree and onto that already Steve. We have made notes of what gear we have seen locally. Like the neighbour who has a large operation said I can borrow any of his gear which is nice. But we'll have enough need to have some gear of our own, a tractor being one.  We have already been introduced as 'new locals' to some locals at the Thirsty Tui, which is our new local. They are a friendly bunch that's for sure.

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Yes 44hp may sound big,  but not really. If buying new 4 wheel drive (these days they all are) that sucks up quite a few HP's, In my opinion look for a simple setup,  not too heavy on the  electronics or computers. "simpler" the better. A neighbour has a 50 year old Zetor (russian)  3 spanners fit everything, still going strong, f,e,l,  front grader blade etc. it has seen off several other modern tractors, Daedong, john Deere, Fiat / ford and currently a Valtra that shits itself quite regularly, and needs a "technician" with all the computer gear to find out why it shut down!!

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28 minutes ago, marinheiro said:

if you do not need 4WD I reckon you should find an old Ford 3000/4000, go forever and easy to repair.

True, and they used to be everywhere, getting fairly scarce now though, especially one in reasonable condition. There is a guy on the Kaiwaka Mangawhai rd who does a good job of rebuilding Fergies, and another on SH1 just before the turn off to Waipu, not sure if he specialises in any particular make.

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On sussing I see Kioti and Kubota are both owned by Daedong in Sth Korea. I found a big website, tractorlovers.com or similar, where Kioti did have a lot of happy users and the couple who weren't were more anti due to local support changing for the worse more than issues with the gear. Those comments were mostly 2017-208 and US based.

Where the trees are going is hilly and already has pockets of native bush which we are keeping. The trees we are planting like mates so we are planting them in the gaps between the stands of native. It will make that 30 odd acres tight for machinery and when wet probably quite challenging for wheeled vehicles. Hence I'm thinking tractor size needs to be big input and 4WD maybe a must. Once the trees get up a bit or we work out a good way of keeping them out of stomachs we'll put sheep or goats or something in there to keep the undergrowth in control.

Part of the plan is to re-vegetate around 35-40 acres by restoring/encouraging what natives we can and infilling with around 700 of our cropping trees. Doing that will create a nature path between a large amount of native bush to the NW, west and some to the east of us, which in turn has nature paths which allow wildlife safe passage to far further afield. It's part of a plan by the locals to allow Kiwi and the likes wider and safer cruising grounds, a plan me and the Wa are all in for. Out the back is river flats and rolling grass so not much there bar 4 off acres of wetlands that have been trampled over the years so we are also going to restore that.

We can pull upwards 1000 bales (old rectangles not new rolls) of hay off the back we're told but we'd let a contractor do that. So the tractor is mainly for tree support rather than much else.

So far this one leads the race on paper, pimped up with a FEL and back hoe fitted, close as 34K new with those 2 fitted   - https://www.kiotitractors.co.nz/products/tractors/ck4210

But I have 3 fecking weeks, if not the increasingly looking like 5 or more, to wade through the other options.

The Ford 3000 looks fun but now old so would there still be good parts out there?

 

 

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