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32 minutes ago, ScottiE said:

I don't put much trust in a production where interviews are so heavily edited like that.  Nor do I trust a reporter who self-promotes is image so vagrantly.  That thing "feels" more like an advert for him than anything else.  I'd like to see some more independent verification/ testing of the "consipiracy theory" in the 2nd half of the story. 

However I have the following articles which precede the above journo's "investigations".

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-china-trail-leading-back-to-wuhan-labs/

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/tracing-the-viruss-origins/

and today .. .

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/did-we-see-this-coming/

which has picked up by . . .

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/intelligence-officials-warned-of-coronavirus-crisis-as-early-as-november-report

 

It'll take months if not years to get to the bottom of this . . . if we ever do.  In the past this is the kind of thing that has brought about war.

 

as for the second vid. nah - not watching that - just looks aweful!

 

 

Point of the second video is a interview with a south African & an American by Epoch media with a window into the Chinese pysche.

They lived in china for years, have Chinese wives, bailed out as things were tightening around them. They are bloggers.

Your right, its tedious, but I have never been to China. My daughter has several times for printing high end publications.

She only just was able to tolerate it. i.

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3 minutes ago, Black Panther said:

This thread only available to people with tinfoil hats.

So the proven scientific data provided is wrong?.. or is that just trolling?

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19 minutes ago, Black Panther said:

This thread only available to people with tinfoil hats.

Refute away, with references . No hats needed.

Trust has to be earned, China doesn't seem to acknowledge that.

Booting western journalists for one.

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Just now, Black Panther said:

I think this whole thread is nothing but trolling. 

Really?... I think there is a lot of good solid debate by passionate and interested people talking a serious topic here.

Maybe you are not taking it seriously enough..  which brings into doubt your ability to administer posts?

No. I think you are trolling by not offering an " on topic" opinion. IMHO. 

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I'm off to chop firewood. W

16 minutes ago, Black Panther said:

I think this whole thread is nothing but trolling. 

I'm left of center & I can manage it. Closet CCP card member are you?

I'm off to chop firewood.

Waste of time trying to bat ideas around here. ;)

No personal attacks, no foul language, only references to opinions.

As trite as it is, everyone has one.

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7 minutes ago, lateral said:

I'm off to chop firewood. W

I'm left of center & I can manage it. Closet CCP card member are you?

I'm off to chop firewood.

Waste of time trying to bat ideas around here. ;)

No personal attacks, no foul language, only references to opinions.

As trite as it is, everyone has one.

Don't give up. I'm right of center and agree with a lot of what you put up.

We're not world's apart.

Be safe. U wouldn't think chopping firewood would be on the safe list?...  If fishing ain't then I can't see using a splitter or chainsaw would be?...

I won't tell.

😁

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1 hour ago, Black Panther said:

I think this whole thread is nothing but trolling. 

BP - legitamite epidemiologists will be relying on exactly the information being covererd by these investigative journalists as they try to established how this virus was able to spread so widely without detection.  Why? because, increasingly, there is evidence that the CCP (to make clear the distinction) tried to hide the initial outbreaks in Wuhan, did not advise the WHO at the first oportunity as they are legally required to do per the charter they signed up to. The CCP has publically stated that they blamed America for the outbreak, then when that didn't work, Italy.  Attempting to control the narrative by lying is straight out of Engels and Marx's writings. Determining whether or not that is the case here is not tin foil hat thinking, unless of course by proposing such a concept without basis you too wish to control the narrative.

"...the only basis for justice is truth, becasue justice means truth for all."

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