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Correct me if I am wrong. To race in most clubs your vessel needs to be registered with YNZ ,current owner details,so YNZ should already have the information required

Do they need to who each individual club member is??NO

How many race without crew members of a club??

YNZ funding generated through grants and club levies?By insisting asking clubs for member details is it YNZ way of making sure they are receiving all levies??.

A club which holds no regattas just has an in house cruising races what benefit do they receive from being affiliated to YNZ.Safety regs can be done in house with a general signing by owners that vessel complies taking away the onus from the race committee??But would it under current OSH rules.About 4yrs ago we had a meeting,the night before the start,to decide on the weekend course due to weather as the race committee felt under OSH regs if it turned to custard  they would be seen as trying to eliminate the risks.

As some have pointed out they belong to more than one club so double dipping by YNZ.What those on the social membership??

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A number of questions unanswered here. YNZ lying doggo hoping these issues will die down....again.  This forum was for the benefit of YNZ I understood to answer queries. Maybe I'm wrong....again . Or do they just  respond  selectively ? Maybe KM will help in their absence

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6 hours ago, harrytom said:

Correct me if I am wrong. To race in most clubs your vessel needs to be registered with YNZ ,current owner details,so YNZ should already have the information required  No, registration is optional only

Do they need to who each individual club member is??NO

How many race without crew members of a club??  Most crew members on keelers are not club members

YNZ funding generated through grants and club levies?By insisting asking clubs for member details is it YNZ way of making sure they are receiving all levies??.  No, they already audit clubs

A club which holds no regattas just has an in house cruising races what benefit do they receive from being affiliated to YNZ  Very little .Safety regs can be done in house with a general signing by owners that vessel complies taking away the onus from the race committee??But would it under current OSH rules.About 4yrs ago we had a meeting,the night before the start,to decide on the weekend course due to weather as the race committee felt under OSH regs if it turned to custard  they would be seen as trying to eliminate the risks.

As some have pointed out they belong to more than one club so double dipping by YNZ.What those on the social membership??

 

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10 minutes ago, ex Elly said:

 

So does rule 76.1 not valid with club racing??

76.1 Yachting New Zealand prescribesthat organising authoritiesshall not accept entriesfrom keel, trailer or multihull boats which are not registered with Yachting New Zealand or with their national authority, or with their International Class Associationsin the names of the current owners and such boats shall not be entitled to race.

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YNZ registration

23 minutes ago, ex Elly said:

In theory the boat should be registered, but no one polices it.

 

It is a requirement to enter a keelboat in a race typically in the Sailing instructions and or NOR

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57 minutes ago, splat said:

YNZ registration

It is a requirement to enter a keelboat in a race typically in the Sailing instructions and or NOR

As a organising authority where do we check this ?

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8 minutes ago, Jon said:

As a organising authority where do we check this ?

https://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/boat-search for the registered craft here Jon or were you referring to the rule requiring it?

 

bored so here is the reference in the organising authority prescriptions - see clause 76.1 specifically  -  https://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/sites/default/files/2018-10/YNZ Prescriptions 2017-2020.pdf

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Yes but what if the registered owner isn’t the one entering the race

what if the registered owner is a company 

what if your just borrowing the boat, or chartering it for the race.

 

its a bit like a gun amnesty, only catches the legal/obvious ones

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