Romany 162 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Are they drillling for oil or is it just a convenient parking place? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 apparently working on the stormwater outfall, the pumping station also under construction at pt.erin video https://youtu.be/WqTU4vKFPqQ?t=67 a problem many years old and taking many years to rectify with the central interceptor https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11784545 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I wouldn't be surprised if it gets re-purposed as a desalination pick-up pipe by this summer, to help with the water shortage. Excellent spot for it, high tidy flow for dispersion of the brackish water, plenty of space there on the Pt Erin side of the harbour bridge for the desalination plant to be located, and they can hook into the big water mains going over the harbour bridge for distribution. Strewth, they could even park one of these rumoured Saudi desalination barges inside Watchman Island, or tie it up to the jack up platform that is there now. It would look like they are still constructing the stormwater outfall, we wouldn't even know its a desal unit unless they told us... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 it does appear that part of the deal to get more waikato water for drinking, is that auckland start recycling some of its wastewater for drinking but some "customary"? issues will have to be worked through first https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12345648 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 392 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, erice said: it does appear that part of the deal to get more waikato water for drinking, is that auckland start recycling some of its wastewater for drinking but some "customary"? issues will have to be worked through first https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12345648 John Minto battled Auckland City Council for years regarding his self supplied water source containment. Greatest contributing tragedy of this fiasco was the monetisation of a basic human essential resource. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 375 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Priscilla II said: John Minto battled Auckland City Council for years regarding his self supplied water source containment. Greatest contributing tragedy of this fiasco was the monetisation of a basic human essential resource. Yep. Water supply needs to be owned by public. Should not be for profit. Ever. What's next? Air? But being less political - Is the problem so badly managed that we're seriously looking at desalination? Massive energy costs associated with that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 392 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 The Watercare CEO who prays for rain is now on nearly $900k a year. https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/116580549/council-agency-bonuses-phil-goff-claims-no-knowledge-of-1million-payments-made-to-executives Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 50 minutes ago, DrWatson said: But being less political - Is the problem so badly managed that we're seriously looking at desalination? Massive energy costs associated with that... Yes. 'We' are seriously looking at desalination... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 No joke. The Saudi's have these desalination barges, they use them over part of the year but don't really need them for the rest of the year, so we can lease them. One barge can produce about 5% of Auckland's daily consumption. Of course the Saudi's have loads of cheap oil to run these things with. I'm not sure what we would run them on, but it will be expensive either way. On a related note, I am struggling to imagine the economic impact if water restrictions are increased. A water shortage could be as bad, or worse than lockdown for the economy. Think of any business that does any food prep, resturants, take aways, cafes, food processing factories. Then other water intensive industries, construction (concrete), a number of manufacturing processes, on it goes... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 The alternative is to drink your neighbours piss, i.e. wastewater recycling. The Ministers response to that was hilarious... he said we are already drinking Hamilton's piss, so couldn't really see the problem with Aucklanders drinking their own piss. Glad I'm on tank water.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romany 162 Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 17 hours ago, Fish said: The alternative is to drink your neighbours piss, i.e. wastewater recycling. The Ministers response to that was hilarious... he said we are already drinking Hamilton's piss, so couldn't really see the problem with Aucklanders drinking their own piss. Glad I'm on tank water.... and lets not start talking about Dr Maxwell. Evolve or become extinct came into my mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 We should revisit towing icebergs. Use combo of ocean rugs and wind power. NZ has good location for it in terms of distance and ambient temperatures. Better than other countries that have tried it like EMEA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 642 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Why not run oil tankers down to milford sound and ship the water back to AK then pump it in to supply line?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romany 162 Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 What could go wrong eh!🙉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 511 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Selling these at Mitre10 Hamilton 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dtwo 157 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 On 7/07/2020 at 9:31 PM, Fish said: Of course the Saudi's have loads of cheap oil to run these things with. I'm not sure what we would run them on, but it will be expensive either way. There is a totally green option of burning seal oil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dtwo 157 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 On 8/07/2020 at 11:38 AM, Knot Me... maybe said: the second harbour crossing You mention this as if it's a real thing, when in fact the plan is to wait until flying cars come out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Dtwo said: There is a totally green option of burning seal oil Funny, I was listening to an article on RNZ about McQuarry Island, where they made a machine that could boil up 2,000 penguins a day for oil. The company was set up by a Kiwi in the 1800's. Think he was a Prime Minster or something. Apparently they ran out of penguins... Made loads of $$$$'s first though. Apparently something to do with no RMA back then. The kids watch the Lorax movie they other day. Very strong parallels. Anyway, power wont be a problem now. The Nations power demand just dropped something like 15%, freeing up a massive green source of electricity. Bit of a problem for the 2,600 out of work though. I kind of wonder if the MP for Southland should have been focusing on that instead of weather or not a spreadsheet was password protected... But I guess I'd better move my thoughts on that to smalltalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ed 143 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Had a tour around the site on point Erin this afternoon, not my project but a tidy little operation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 243 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 unfortunately the pipeline North just isn't big enough to move all the extra capacity to Jaffa land. Huge dollars to upgrade said pipe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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