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I wouldn't through the bath water out just yet. There are pockets around with racing where the Variant would fit in just fine. I am up at Weiti, and that sort of boat is much more common up here

Are you saying they know how to sail but have never raced? If that’s the case, there is a benefit in dinghy sailing you won’t get in keelers. Basically, they are geared up for teaching.  Dinghy club

Sandspit YC is a bit further North, they have mixed  class / cruising, races and the bonus of Kawau bay area to practice in.

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Are you saying they know how to sail but have never raced?
If that’s the case, there is a benefit in dinghy sailing you won’t get in keelers. Basically, they are geared up for teaching.  Dinghy clubs will have a chase boat, and a learn to sail course which morphs into learn to race and the rules. Once racing, a chase boat can help with basic sailing, and there’s fleets where it’s expected many are still learning rules, so much assistance is offered. Crashes typically aren’t expensive and repairs if required are easy and quick (relatively). In keel boats, there will be less people nearby to help, typically less help offered, and an expectation to know and understand the rules, so as to avoid costly and time consuming repairs - even if insurance covers the cost, no one wants to be without a boat for months awaiting it being fixed. 
 

Are you intending to race with them, or drop them off at the marina with their lunch? Your post is unclear. 

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 Have to agree with that mattm, i sailed on  keelers as crew with a bit of racing aswell  , i  later joined Waiuku yacht club and raced a Laser, then moved up to a Finn, you sure do learn the rules quick when  converging on the bottom mark in a big breeze and there is a lot of yelling for bouy room lol,

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1 hour ago, Adrianp said:

Hi Sea Eagle - Adrian here from Lady Nada - Pity we're all not back at Vuluga like last year.

Hey Hey !! Yea!100% we scheming already !! bloody cold .. dream of being back in those blue water and warm weather! lucky we did it last year !!!
Thanks for that I will check them out and see how far the club is from Hobson Bay 💫 I think racing with other keen people will teach loads :-)

 

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37 minutes ago, mattm said:

Are you saying they know how to sail but have never raced?
If that’s the case, there is a benefit in dinghy sailing you won’t get in keelers. Basically, they are geared up for teaching.  Dinghy clubs will have a chase boat, and a learn to sail course which morphs into learn to race and the rules. Once racing, a chase boat can help with basic sailing, and there’s fleets where it’s expected many are still learning rules, so much assistance is offered. Crashes typically aren’t expensive and repairs if required are easy and quick (relatively). In keel boats, there will be less people nearby to help, typically less help offered, and an expectation to know and understand the rules, so as to avoid costly and time consuming repairs - even if insurance covers the cost, no one wants to be without a boat for months awaiting it being fixed. 
 

Are you intending to race with them, or drop them off at the marina with their lunch? Your post is unclear. 

We sail around in our 41 footer, they will sail around with us. They have done opti sailing. We want them to be able to cruise and once they are confident then we thought racing for fun would be a great way to sharpen the skills. The 13 year old has a day skippers ticket, VHF and HF licence and 8000+ cruising miles at least and is a well competent crew on the 41 footer. We are not aiming for a racing career but only to be good sea men and sailors and well ready to inherit the 41 footer so that they can feel competent to sail anywhere in the world they wish to go with the ability to maintain the boat well. That is our aim.

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1 hour ago, whitepointer said:

Be sure to have a good read of the fine print with insurance policy, ie racing cover, wouldnt want to T bone an expensive racing yacht. 

Yea .. but by the time they race I hope they will be skilled enough to have a good time and not go around ramming boats. We are fully insured with the little boat insured for 5 mill libility and compensation.. We will be adequately insured and a skill set capable of being as safe as they can be in a fun competing way .. 

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1 hour ago, Fish said:

You and the boys would be more than welcome at Weiti. Strewth, we even let a C class cat race with us, so they don't feel left out. Been doing that for a number of years now. Don't forget these are all handicap races. Once you understand that, you understand that if you sail well you can get a trophy.

Sounds really great ! Bit of a sail from Hobson but if they get into it enough could be a possibility to move the boat. We have both the boats together in Auckland and we live in Raglan area so the drive is not too hectic. Thanks for the info!

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That is a great idea! yea!  He did crew for a short time from Hobsonville while we were refitting the big boat and did enjoy that.
The only issue I see is the inability to commit to every weekend as we live a few hours away and are not there every weekend.

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Hobsonville YC have some racing also. I understand it is suitably relaxed.

At this risk of ruffling a few feathers around here, there is often a perception that the only 'racing' in Auckland is out of Westhaven. That is not the case. There are horses for every course. Some people think Windward Leewards is the only form of true racing. Some people think you need gazzillion dollar carbon sails to be able to race. That is all fine in its own context, but there is still racing about in older boats and with dacron sails etc. Personally I find reachign up and down the ditch outside Westhaven tactically mind numbing, and prefer racing in good water off of Gulf Harbour.

But if I understand your objectives of racing, you wont have any problem finding good events to get your boys engaged and fired up. The most obvious is probably the SSANZ short handed tripple series. Loads of boats grouped into similar types doing challenging but achievable Hauraki Gulf courses. (ran in winter, first race was the other weekend).

The Barfoot & Thompson 2 handed series is ran in summer out of Weiti / Gulf Harbour. Good fleet of mixed boats, good harbour courses.

Bay of Island Sailing Week, Island Cruising Division - this is the gold standard for summer sailing fun.

Cruising races are destination races, generally no spinakers, but a social catch up on a beach or bay somewhere. Weiti / Gulf Harbour do those, I'm fairly sure Hobsonville do as well. Then there are other events like the Night Race to Kawau, which could grab the attention of boys.

If your 13 has aspirations of solo RNZ, then there is a good solo series run by Richmond. This culminates in the Route 66 race to Marsden Cove. Wont be ready for that now, but something for a young man to aspire to, and most likely perfectly achievable if he has done a lot of offshore passages etc.

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