Guest Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 We are a nation of sailors, arent we. And pride ourselves on our innovation right? How come, then, that we havent mounted a serious attempt on the World sailing speed record? Does anybody know of such an attempt ? Anybody interested ?? How about some inspiration from overseas .. http://www.sailrocket.com/ http://www.wotrocket.com http://www.windjet.co.uk http://www.sailspeedrecords.com/500-metre-records.html Cheers DHRB Oh, and do I have some ideas ? You bettcha !! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 well in hand son....... well in hand Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 well in hand son....... well in hand Is that one of those blokarts? Link to post Share on other sites
idlerboat 116 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Did you know that for a land based record you will have to beat a staggering 126 MPH !!! ...and that in between 30 to 40 mile an hour winds..... Time to tweak those boats lads....you can get a lot more speed out of them yet While you are at it check this out.. http://www.hydroptere.com/index.php?pag ... esentation 2009 was dedicated to outright speed records. The Mediterranean record campaign was totally successful as l’Hydroptère achieved two world speed records that will be hard to exceed for the competitors (average speed of 51.36 knots over 500 meters on 4th September 2009 and above all 50.17 knots over one nautical mile on 8th November 2009) and showed the reliability and the efficiency of the concept. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 And on ice no doubt Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Intresting timing, this just from the gliding nz classifieds "advertI wish to purchase a competition glider Body (only) - to use as the basis for building a craft, using 2 x windsurfer sails, for an attempt on the world, sail powered Speed record. Please contact: David on 027 6660904 - or dhrbernard@gmail.com " being a glider pilot and knowing how they work you could probabaly build a purpose body cheaper than and light than most gliders fuse. also note that they are structurally integral for there own wings and flying loads. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Intresting timing, this just from the gliding nz classifieds "advertI wish to purchase a competition glider Body (only) - to use as the basis for building a craft, using 2 x windsurfer sails, for an attempt on the world, sail powered Speed record. Please contact: David on 027 6660904 - or dhrbernard@gmail.com " being a glider pilot and knowing how they work you could probabaly build a purpose body cheaper than and light than most gliders fuse. also note that they are structurally integral for there own wings and flying loads. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Intresting timing, this just from the gliding nz classifieds "advertI wish to purchase a competition glider Body (only) - to use as the basis for building a craft, using 2 x windsurfer sails, for an attempt on the world, sail powered Speed record. Please contact: David on 027 6660904 - or dhrbernard@gmail.com " being a glider pilot and knowing how they work you could probabaly build a purpose body cheaper than and light than most gliders fuse. also note that they are structurally integral for there own wings and flying loads. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Hey David what part of the country are you in, we could get you up in a two seat glider for a flight if your interested in a different perspective. most clubs do trail flights for around $150.00 Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Hey, thanks for the offer. Which part of NZ do I live in? Wellington. Would love to go up in a glider. Why am I interested in a glider pod? To potentially use as a (ready made), perfectly formed seating pod - with controls - and integral strength for outrigger pods ( instead of wings) - for an 'updated' Longshot type craft - to break the world speed record. I have been following the world speed record for 20 years .. and watching the record creep up and up - alternating between windsurfers, massive, expensive machines like Yellow Pages, back to windsurfers, then Hytroiphere See, I reckon we are missing something .. and that it has always been right in front of us. Lets put it this way: Longshot got the 'Class A' record in 1992 - which it still has, at 43 knots. And thats using 2 x very old fashioned 10 sqm windsurfer sails, and primitive foils - in a badly unbalanced (beautiful) vessel. Now what if, the basic Longshot design was redeveloped, such that the overall CE / balance was better, used modern windsurfer rigs, modern foils ... Thoughts folks ?? DHRB Link to post Share on other sites
Atom Ant 0 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Wasn't Longshot the predecessor of the Hobie Trifoiler? VERY cool boats... Go on give it a go. I think you're on to something - a biplane foil rig - now THAT would look awesome! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Im in Auckland, but try any of these http://www.gliding.co.nz/clubs/wellingt ... iding-club http://www.gliding.co.nz/clubs/hutt-val ... HuttValley http://www.gliding.co.nz/clubs/gliding- ... gWairarapa One of the lightest and cheapest glass gliders is a smyk pw5 from around 15k. the fuslage max weight is 112 kg, all up 190kg. If you google sailplane directory you can see most of them ever made. Stay away from wood, and or fabric as they won't take a foil stall and crash. The was a guy at Dury in Auckland who had several dead pw5's he may well contact you. Another choice could be a libelle Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Wasn't Longshot the predecessor of the Hobie Trifoiler? VERY cool boats... Go on give it a go. I think you're on to something - a biplane foil rig - now THAT would look awesome! Nnnah - Longshot was a PROA!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Atom Ant 0 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Wasn't Longshot the predecessor of the Hobie Trifoiler? VERY cool boats... Go on give it a go. I think you're on to something - a biplane foil rig - now THAT would look awesome! Nnnah - Longshot was a PROA!!!! Sorry Squid, Longbow was a proa, Longshot looks like a Hobie Trifoiler. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Damn you are right, Crossbow I was thinking of. Link to post Share on other sites
Atom Ant 0 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Ah yes - I'd say my memory is failing but I cant remember if it is or not! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 found it Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 If anyone else would like to have a go at 3D sailing in a sailplane Go here http://www.gliding.co.nz/clubs click on your region and find your nearest club. I fly at Whenuapai with the ASC club. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 hey, thanks for the thoughts re gliders, types etc. Appreciated. Hope that chap from Drury rings me .. It does seem as though nobody is really aware of an NZ attempt on the record .. Next step Design Phase: assemble a (virtual ?) team of people, with complimentary skills / knowledge, who can bring together a design concept, based on: - Longshot / Trifoiler as a concept - glider pod, as a basis for streamlined pod / control system / outrigger attachpoints - 2 x windsurfer rigs (like Longshot), as the basis for propulsion - 3 x hydrofoils Aim: to design a simple, craft, capable of breaking the Class A / world speed sailing record. Question: Who do we know in NZ, who has the skills to understand the forces / C/E / i.e. the balance of forces etc. involved in such a craft, and who can translate that with modelling software .. Thoughts? Response ?? Interest ??? Cheers DHRB Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 keeping the concept purely kiwi i've found the "command pod" Link to post Share on other sites
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