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Jon... you might want to edit some of your spelling!🤣

Note the Lidgard sails on her. And no, I am just observant.

Leo from the Tally Ho restoration in a different role...

The only new stocks I did were of 2205 Duplex ss with tangs plug welded by a top NZ SS fabricator , now sadly deceased.

Well, if nothing, next is to pass it on to an MP - isnt this Govt supposed to be removing red tape

enjineer, surely? Now I know that, I'll type slowly so you can follow... 😆

jib / gib How many times do I have to tell you I'm an engineer and not an English teacher?!?

Just furl the jib and it will be accessable, surely 😁 For my sins I once managed a tertiary provider of training to the plumbing and gas industry. The board was, to put it succinctly, a collection of geriatric iliterates with a fondness for gin and ensuring the continued protected status of thier businesses. It may have changed, but I see no evidence.

That is great IT, I hope it effects positive change. There are two other tales I'd like to recount from my dealings with gas fitters, that indicate the Gasfitters Board has far more significant issues than just this. The first one I spoke to stated that bayonet quick disconnect fittings are required on the gas bottle. This is so emergency services can remove the gas bottle without tools. I thought that was a bit odd, cause bayonet fittings are notoriously unreliable and leak like a bastard. Turns out the regs don't require this. So the gas fitter was telling me I needed something tha

Ok, further to that. Today I have made a complaint to the Plumbers, Gasfitters and Drainlayers Board as follows. "I would like to complain about the current situation regarding LPG on Boats. To get a gas cert for the vessel is currently impossible without a complete reinstall. The issue is that despite current standard, page iii "This Standard includes a statement that its requirements do not apply retrospectively" the gas fitters are insisting on compliance with the CURRENT standards, even for an EXISTING installation. This is in direct contradiction to the current standard,

I totally understand your position. It's a shambles and I don't believe was the intention of the standard. The issue is that the gas installers wont take the "risk" of signing off the install, even though it IS compliant with current standards (Through the retrospective clause). They feel they are at risk, and are not prepared to accept that "risk". IMO this is a failure of the gas registration and education system. My boat is in the same situation as yours - built in 1988. My insurance condition report stated "gas compliant at time of install" and that was accepted. There are

I would be very very keen to hear if you can name a gas fitter that will sign off (issue a gas certificate) for work on part of a system if the remainder of the system doesn't comply with the standard. I'm not wanting to sound argumentative, but after my recent personal experience of trying to find a gas fitter that understands the basics of NZS 5601 part 2, I think finding someone that would do what you outline would be akin to finding rocking horse sh*t. I asked gas fitters if they would do this, as what you say was my interpretation of the standards as well. I had intensive discussions

Sorry but that is not correct. If a boat complied with the regs when it was built it still complies, unless in poor or unsafe condition. That is what "Retrospective" means. I agree that if anything is changed, that needs to comply with the regs at the time it was changed. You do NOT need to redo the whole system just to replace a gas line (for example). The issue is finding someone who actually understands the regs. The insurance co "condition reports" I've seen just say does the gas install comply with NZ standards, not "Current standards" the "current standard" says cle

Loads of data, no information. Sounds like my workplace

That is quiet irrelevant, especially for insurance purposes. Two reasons: The insurance co's via the condition assessment reports want to know if the boat complies with the current NZ standards, not the standards from 1975, and If a gas fitter touches anything on the system, then the whole system needs to be upgraded. Noting that you aren't allowed to touch anything yourself and have to get a gas fitter even to crimp a hose clip. There are several reasons a gas fitter may need to touch the system, one being the standard flexible hose (1869 class C) that costs $12/m from Bur

What brand?

The main thing to note is, from page iii "This Standard includes a statement that its requirements do not apply retrospectively"

I have taken multiple sets (3) of lead carbon batts out of customers boats this year - premature failures, all approx 2 years old.. All have gone Lifepo4

Because the battery will turn off, possibly at a critical moment - no lights, no nav gear etc. Known as "dark ship". That's what the regs are trying to avoid.

Great info!

Yes we are watching that may need to re asses courses and destination yet but still a week out so lots can change

Asking again if anyone has experience re-bushing the pintles and gudgeons on a Lotus 9.2. Does the skeg and rudder come out as one piece? Or can just the rudder be removed to fix. How is it attached? Does anyone have diagrams or plans for these boats? Many thanks in advance. I'm on the hard, trying to get the job done as quickly and economically as possible. Cheers Rick

I hope the long range Forecast improves 😜😜