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I would be very very keen to hear if you can name a gas fitter that will sign off (issue a gas certificate) for work on part of a system if the remainder of the system doesn't comply with the standard. I'm not wanting to sound argumentative, but after my recent personal experience of trying to find a gas fitter that understands the basics of NZS 5601 part 2, I think finding someone that would do what you outline would be akin to finding rocking horse sh*t. I asked gas fitters if they would do this, as what you say was my interpretation of the standards as well. I had intensive discussions

Sorry but that is not correct. If a boat complied with the regs when it was built it still complies, unless in poor or unsafe condition. That is what "Retrospective" means. I agree that if anything is changed, that needs to comply with the regs at the time it was changed. You do NOT need to redo the whole system just to replace a gas line (for example). The issue is finding someone who actually understands the regs. The insurance co "condition reports" I've seen just say does the gas install comply with NZ standards, not "Current standards" the "current standard" says cle

Loads of data, no information. Sounds like my workplace

That is quiet irrelevant, especially for insurance purposes. Two reasons: The insurance co's via the condition assessment reports want to know if the boat complies with the current NZ standards, not the standards from 1975, and If a gas fitter touches anything on the system, then the whole system needs to be upgraded. Noting that you aren't allowed to touch anything yourself and have to get a gas fitter even to crimp a hose clip. There are several reasons a gas fitter may need to touch the system, one being the standard flexible hose (1869 class C) that costs $12/m from Bur

What brand?

The main thing to note is, from page iii "This Standard includes a statement that its requirements do not apply retrospectively"

I have taken multiple sets (3) of lead carbon batts out of customers boats this year - premature failures, all approx 2 years old.. All have gone Lifepo4

Because the battery will turn off, possibly at a critical moment - no lights, no nav gear etc. Known as "dark ship". That's what the regs are trying to avoid.

Great info!

Yes we are watching that may need to re asses courses and destination yet but still a week out so lots can change

Asking again if anyone has experience re-bushing the pintles and gudgeons on a Lotus 9.2. Does the skeg and rudder come out as one piece? Or can just the rudder be removed to fix. How is it attached? Does anyone have diagrams or plans for these boats? Many thanks in advance. I'm on the hard, trying to get the job done as quickly and economically as possible. Cheers Rick

I hope the long range Forecast improves 😜😜

The joy of multihulls Tide/Wind Wind/Tide . Pacific Bay in Tut may be less stressful, though Wellington bay is fine as long as its well north.

Thanks very much, so you think anchoring in the channel will be a problem with limited swing room and possibly circling with wind against tide breaking the anchor out and resetting? Maybe better to anchor outside at Wellington bay? Or is it sheltered enough further up that she'll lie to the tide reliably?

All the above is why I went for lead-carbon over lithium. Much the same reason as why Aardvark when for a kerosene stove over LPG. It avoids a whole lot of compliance issues. Standard charging profile and voltage profile, no need for a BMS and no risk of blowing the alternator in an uncontrolled load dump.

Why is it so critical to have an audible alarm for low voltage? This seems to be a regulation for commercial operations or similar.

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I used to surf there a bit . It moves heaps , you should be ok draft wise but swing room is limited . Bottom is sand and shells unless you go up creek to the mangroves . Wellington or Whangaumu Bay outside the entrance is a reasonable north sheltered anchorage if there’s no swell .

Insurance is a piece of paper to get you into marinas.

Until you make a claim, the insurance companies are a law under themselves. Its there job not to pay out!

Unfortunately my official copy of NZS 5601 part 2 is via a work subscription to the AS/NZS standards and it is extremely heavily embargoed with copyright protection. I couldn't even copy and past single clauses, or print it. However, I checked the key relevant clauses with this draft copy for consultation and the key clauses are unchanged (the ones I mentioned in my post above). I can't vouch that there are no differences in the whole document but this is a good starter for someone wanting to understand requirements. Especially for many of the tedious things like set backs for flammable s

HI there, Does anyone have up to date information about Ngunguru? Local knowledge or recent experience? The bar has a reputation for moving so I don't trust any of the charts or pilot books, never been in there before. I'm considering going in tomorrow with a 1.1m draft. 1. What's the least depth on the bar (and is that at high tide, low tide or chart datum?) Tides are curently neaps, range 1.1m-2.2 2. Does the channel currently align with the channel markers and are the markers good? 3. Where is good to anchor inside? depth at low tide? Enough space for a 50ft c

HI Peter , realy sorry for the late reply , i didint check this website for a while and i just saw your message. if you still looking for skipper for the weekends im happy to be your one, from monday to friday i work in Orams Marine , weekends free. Phone number 02110709625 thank you,Pedro.

Would love to see the relevant parts of the standard if you're able to share them. It's a job that's overdue on my boat.