DrWatson 369 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 So what are people's preferences? Pros and cons? I'm not really aware of what all the pros and cons are, but if given the option, on an otherwise identical rig, what would you take? Fractional double swept spreader with babystay, 50/50 racing cruising.... btw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,211 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Linked rigging gives more control - like fixing the exact point of spreader contact. However, the more complex something is, the more chance of a failure I would think. Way more connections on a linked rig.... Linked rigging is harder to set up correctly as it is more adjustable, and it cannot all be done from on deck. As a cruiser, that is self maintained, I prefer continuous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
w44vi 17 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Didn't Ceramco lose its mast because it had continuos rod rigging and it broke at the spreader bend Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Detailed correctly all connections should be stronger than the linear material. Eg. Ronstan's swage fittings are designed to fail at 1.25 times the MBL of the 1x19 cable strand - assuming they are factory swaged of course! The aramid fibre cables from parafil I used on a sculpture many years ago had the same criteria. I didn't believe them and tested the crap out of them. Had my rigger do a deliberately 'good termination', 'bad termination', and a bunch of random terminations - always failed in the fibre - not at the termination. I was very impressed at the time. Still can't get another client to stump up for the cost difference since though! I'm quite sure reputable rope technicians such as grant will achieve similar results! And so it comes down to detailing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,211 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Yep, agree with that. But more terminations, more chance of a failure, however slight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tubthumper 0 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 If anyone gets a little close to the Mirabella V, have a look at those stay terminations! Link plates the size of torso's! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJohnB 323 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Do you mean the one in the background? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJohnB 323 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I have really lost it. Totally the wrong boat. I will go back into my corner now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tubthumper 0 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Still a good photo, check the outboard ends on the Rambler, other end of the spectrum, fully continuous Carbon C6 rigging. 3rd of the weight, 3.5 times the price!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rats 28 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Great until it gets wet- like going for a swim not spray from travelling fast into the wave in front you Carbon rigging does not like salt water immersion for any sustained period then you can throw it away. My vote would be continuous, using dyform wire (roughly 30% stronger than identical diameter 1 X 19 ) and Norseman fittings with dyform cones. The Norseman fittings cost but save you heaps longer term because after that your rigging costs are simply new wire and new cones each end. Plus if you have a spare length of wire as long as the longest on board you can replace any length yourself at sea if required and not have to find a cruising destination with a swaging machine. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 can't get the norseman fittings any more I thought. Lots of chatter on the interweb about not being able to buy the cones any more either. Aparently you need new cones when you replace the wire. here's the press release from navtec (2nd one down) http://www.navtecriggingsolutions.com/news.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rats 28 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Damn did not know of that development, another case of a big company absorbing any competition and stuffing a good product to sell only what they offer, sadly seems to be to the modus of a lot these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 369 Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 Yes, Damn indeed. Back to seizing wire... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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