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Gave us a fly past on S Marina last night before the race - no sign of wound and seemed normal. Were some slabs of polystyrene floating around so assume she had had a play. Having met the thing under water twice while cleaning boat, am losing my absolute fear (nothing worse to fear than fear itself). Would still not go in knowing she is there but the wetsuit probably would not need a good clean next time. 

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Fish I don’t agree with you. The happy teeth researcher is not going round slandering boaties. Last year someone offered $1000 for happy teeth's head on here. Someone was bound to take matters into their own hands eventually!

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Personally I am not too bothered by the seal- a little bit of anxiety when I clean the boat, I dont have toddlers and I keep the dinghy on the foredeck 

 

 

I dont understand why shooting it is not an option. I'm not stirring, I just don't understand. Its not endangered, it is causing trouble and there is a risk it may injure humans.

 

I've got young kids. I know Clipper has young kids. Both Clipper and I are actively involving our kids in boating / sailing / playing in dinghies / swimming off the back of the boat etc etc.

 

I think people's view of this situation changes when you have some actual skin in the game. I'm not bothered by all the dinghies being destroyed. My main concern is that my kids get such a fright from this predator (its not a f@#$Ken seal) that they wont ever go back to our boat, let alone go near the water. That they loose interest in the outdoors, sit inside, watch TV and die of obesity.

 

Mate, I suspected you don't have kids, but I didn't bring that up specifically because I didn't want to 'play the man instead of the ball'... your gybe about taking it to smalltalk was not clearly directed at anyone or any particular comment, hence my response that it looked like the outcome of a weak argument.

 

And on that, erice has a legit point, that if the govt see's fit to ban sugar (soft drink) and most recently yesterday the MoE banning chips and popcorn etc because of the undue hazard to kids, in the context of another govt department leaving a large predator in the marina, then yes erice is right on topic, that is a relevant point to make. I would throw that back at you as a lack of understanding of the context of this, but I wouldn't want to be accused of playing the man again. I look forward to your reasoned response :-)

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Well, lets get back to a reasoned discussion.

It does look as though Leopard Seals are now resident in this part of the world. There are actually several in this area of the coast. We must learn to live with them, and manage them. Shooting one, apart from being illegal, is stupid, and likely wont solve the issue.

Like all animals, the way to prevent them from doing what you don't want them to do is to remove whatever benefit they get from the unwanted behavior, whether that be food, entertainment, whatever. 

It is not a good idea to have an apex predator in the marina environment, if it can realistically be avoided. It seams nonsensical to me that the current laws don't allow you to protect your property, or even your family, from any threat. The sea lions in California, for example, can be "persuaded"  to leave a dock with a hose I understand. I cant see why this is not allowed here. If the leopard seals were hosed every time they got onto a dock in the marina, they would likely go somewhere else. No harm done to them.

Finally, sensationalist reporting, and the obsessive protective behavior of some people, does not help the issue. We still have no proof that Owha has, in fact, been shot. That would could just as easily have been a stingray barb.

IMO this is all PC gone mad.

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Dont know where thecidea that they can be moved on came from. This entire marina has been closed for years because of ....

 

 

Was there a few years ago on a warm day and let me tell you, the smell was truly something, pungent and overwhelming...

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Being made a resident species does not make any difference to the level of protection these animals are provided. Under current legislation all marine mammals are protected. However, this reclassification does mean that leopard seals are considered to be an endangered species in NZ.

 

Common sense would dictate that Westhaven being issued a permit to move our friend on when needed is a sensible measure??? While she does not seem aggressive (unless you are an inflatable or fender) you do not want just anyone walking up to her and chasing her off the pontoon with a hose.

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Your looking at the wrong information...

 

You need to be looking at the conservation status of New Zealand marine mammals, 2019 Report.

 

They have been classified as naturally uncommon common which means they ate at risk of going extinct.

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Your looking at the wrong information...

 

You need to be looking at the conservation status of New Zealand marine mammals, 2019 Report.

 

They have been classified as naturally uncommon common which means they ate at risk of going extinct.

There is a rather vocal group of climate change activists that believe the human race is at risk of extinction as well - Extinction Rebellion.

You can basically find any information you want on the internet to support whatever view you hold.

 

DoC are the official body responsible for said Leopard Seal. They don't appear particularly concerned about the imminent collapse of the Leopard Seal population...

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There is a rather vocal group of climate change activists that believe the human race is at risk of extinction as well - Extinction Rebellion.

You can basically find any information you want on the internet to support whatever view you hold.

 

DoC are the official body responsible for said Leopard Seal. They don't appear particularly concerned about the imminent collapse of the Leopard Seal population...

 

I'm not sure I agree with DoC's classification. Just stating their classification under current law.

 

I have lost several fenders and had my dinghy punctured a couple of times. But wouldn't want to see an animal hurt regardless of the damage it has caused.

 

Out of curiosity has anyone found ways to stop their fenders being eaten

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Out of curiosity has anyone found ways to stop their fenders being eaten

Paint your fenders the colour of a male leapard seal, ensuring to draw a mouth on the bottom end, with very large and menacing teeth...

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