Guest 000 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Have checked out the Maritime Transport Act 1994, and it makes depressing reading. Section 14. Heading. 'Seafarers to be involved in the development of Health and Safety procedures.' Sounds great doesn't it, but guess what, that part of the act has been repealed. Concerning harbourmasters, they have a statutory right to demand your name and address. Failure to give it will make you liable for 12 months inside or a $10,000 fine. So better carry lifejackets in the dinghy becasuse one thing for sure,no one in authority is going to listen to commomsense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 The courts might listen to common sense 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 000 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Well I dunno... There is a trite but true saying, 'the law is an ass.' That would mean then that a judge is the servant of an ass? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vorpal Blade 89 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Have checked out the Maritime Transport Act 1994, and it makes depressing reading. Section 14. Heading. 'Seafarers to be involved in the development of Health and Safety procedures.' Sounds great doesn't it, but guess what, that part of the act has been repealed. Concerning harbourmasters, they have a statutory right to demand your name and address. Failure to give it will make you liable for 12 months inside or a $10,000 fine. So better carry lifejackets in the dinghy becasuse one thing for sure,no one in authority is going to listen to commomsense. Yes but the harbour master doesn't carry the appropriate warrants to actually arrest you, they will have to make the call to shore and get plod to come and cuff you up, unless of course they have one with them at the time. Just say nothing, as is part of your rights. Also a fisheries officer has the appropriate ministerial warrant to arrest if required so don't f**k with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 000 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Thanks. It's always good to know where you stand with regard to people who desire to impose their authority on you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 The courts might listen to common sense I don't seem to be able to find an emotive of a guy rolling on the floor laughing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,586 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 So I will continue to do what I have always done and on the rare occasion I am stopped will pay new $300 tax to be able to do so. And look forward to the day I sail away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 375 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Holy heck. This thread turned so fat, I feel like that TV program(??) of the car turning so fast and the passengers face pushed hard against the side Window. Automan ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 000 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Warning - Thread drift. This business of 'wear a lifejacket or $300 fine' is symptomatic of all that's wrong in NZ. We cycle tour a lot overseas, and they generally have the same road signage as we do, No parking, Dump no Rubbish, No overnight Camping etc. But in NZ it's No parking, offenders will be towed. Dump no Rubbish $500 fine. No overnight camping $300 fine. Show me a prohibitory sign in NZ that does not have attached all the things the authorities are going to do to you if you're a bit naughty. This waving the stick business all the time is awful, unnecessary and shows what a draconian society we have allowed ourselves to become. What's the matter with education and gentle persuasion? Why does it have to be 'do this or we'll kick the crap out of you?' As my dear old mum in law used to say, you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
armchairadmiral 411 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 It's the social engineering experiment that really started gaining momentum under Helen.Seeing how far you can push an isolated community (NZ) how quickly. Helen loaded the judiciary,Local Govt and Govt bureaucracy with sycncophants and this penalty regime is the outcome. Lifejackets BS is symptomatic of nanny state do as you're told or else. And of course there are always people queueing up to kick other people around. Collaborators,Gestapo, Traffic cops,Harbourmasters and staff all have that same type of personalty and the ability to threaten draconian penalty is part and parcel of their power play. I've taken advice from within this forum and got some real old grotty lifejackets to carry. Won't serve any function but they are a sop to the pointy heads and cheaper than a ticket. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 As my dear old mum in law used to say, you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. DOC are suggesting charges to walk 'great walks' in nz https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/queenstown/doc-boss-suggests-great-walks-charges as some guy said on the tv " for what, the chance to dirty your boots?" you climb fuji there are rest stop shops where you can buy overpriced ramen along with an over the top view ski in europe and around the corner of a ski run is a small chalet doing a great spag bol with a full glass of red wine in a very memorable setting give people on holiday a reason to spend they're primed for spending not surprise taxation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJohnB 322 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Did anyone see TV1 sportnews last night? A couple of men's tennis players (4) in a little rubber duckie with no lj's n Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 197 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 It's ok, they were only tendering in to Oneroa from a launch, after eating scallops in Manowar bay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 642 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 anyone been breathe tested or drug tested as its all part of the lifejacket rules in under 6 metres http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/257725/lifejacket-rules-for-auckland-boaties It will be an offence for anyone in charge of a vessel to be intoxicated by drugs or alcohol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,586 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Interesting it doesn't say "in charge of a vessel under way". As it is being intoxicated at anchor is illegal. Can't see that working. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 642 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 maybe dated but is it still enforceable?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
armchairadmiral 411 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Noted on our cruise this year almost no one wearing LJ's in their inflatables commuting to shore or other boats. Maybe an underground silent civil rebellion is gathering momentum ?... something like the French did against their Nazis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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