erice 732 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 wild tasman claims another yacht The experienced sailors had been sailing from New Zealand to Australia in a 12-metre vessel as part of a 10-year circumnavigation of the globe when the yacht's rudder broke on Saturday. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11814853 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 511 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 And if it had a NZ Cat1 certificate it would have an alternative method of steering anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Rudder broke Saturday, they didn't hit the beacon until Tuesday. Sounds like they may have had other methods to steer, but the primary problem was weather conditions, as they got rolled. "The experienced sailors had been sailing from New Zealand to Australia in a 12-metre vessel as part of a 10-year circumnavigation of the globe when the yacht's rudder broke on Saturday. They activated the yacht's emergency radio beacon three days later, on Tuesday afternoon, after their yacht "rolled" during a heavy swell and high winds." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 It's one thing to have emergency backups to pass Cat1 and totally another implementing them in huge Seas.I am not referring to this particular incident because I simply don't know, but there used to be an alternative steering arrangement allowed, in which you fitted an emergency tiller to the top of thew shaft that was located under the Aft Bunk. I know one person that had to use this situation in Seas no where near this above Tasman example. They simply could not stay under the Bunk for long without becoming horribly Sea sick and they had to abandon that particular steering idea.But yes there is also a way of steering the Boat using Sail position and or dragging a droque to one side of the boat. Once again, I have never tried it in a Storm. But have done in nice sailing conditions. So I can't speak of experience of trying to steer a boat in what they were in. I think if that was the situation for me, I would wait out till conditions improved and then try the Alt methods.I noticed on the Video that they had some kind of Sea Anchor off the Bow, but the rode was side on to the Boat, not pulling directly out in front. That made the motion just plain terrible for them and it would be near impossible to move around to do anything.It will be interesting to hear their Story later. Anyone know them?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hb1849 12 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Yes it would be good to know what happened. I reckon a bi-annual? publication of all these types of incidents would be really beneficial. Seems like real opportunities to learn from real incidents are missed by not getting a good debrief of exactly what happened. Lots of good accounts here: http://dragdevicedb.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 397 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Looks like a Roberts Spray and if its their home no wonder they didnt scuttle her and intend going after her in a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rossd 16 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Thats a great site. Just read a couple of reports, one from NZ in 1966 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Also one by Peter Blake on the Round Australia race http://dragdevicedb.com/drogues-on-trimarans/dt-1-trimaran-steinlager Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 640 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Thanks MarkMT interesting to read this stuff after the event as you never here/read about it at the time. Just thinking about my own yacht,what would I tie a drogue off too if running?? bridle around winches? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,211 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Read Lynn and Larry Pardy's storm tactics. Thats the basis of the system that I have used, and would continue to use in really heavy weather - over 50 - 60 knots, especially if coming from where I want to go, or in a prolonged storm with really big seas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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