Frank 157 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Morning all, longtime listener , first time caller here, I've been sailing 40 yrs coastal mostly. Have done 3 pacific trips on a Ganley Stratos, not mine. I'm looking to do more of these trips on my own boat eventually. So to that point any comments on the suitability of a Beneteau Cyclades 43 for offshore cruising, good bones ? I think the sailing Vagabonde team had one for a while. Thanks Frank Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 360 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Frank Firstly buyer be ware Most of this range were built to go straight into the charter market This is a good thing as they are designed to be easily sailed by many The down side is they are easily sailed by many So if you can find one that's well looked after and hasn't been used as a bumper boat then they are capable enough for cruising but they weren't ever designed to high end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank 157 Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 Thanks Jon ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank 157 Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 UPDATE: I recently viewed a Bavaria 38 of 2000 vintage, I had a good look in the bilge area. I noticed the moulded transverse floors were much deeper in section than the Beneteau of similar length and vintage. The overall Top Hat (TH) section of the former just struck me as substantially bigger all round. Another surprise was that the "Egg Crate" structural grid did not seem to be continuous between the floors allowing for the lower flanges of the TH sections to be "tabbed" onto the hull . I'm not sure if this is factory standard or not, but If so is then it strikes me as being stronger, more easily repaired and more damage tolerant than the Beneteau, granted one should not make too much of a judgement on only two boats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,230 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Some of the older Bavarias were not great sailers, if your serious about that one, whose the designer on that model? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank 157 Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 Some of the older Bavarias were not great sailers, if your serious about that one, whose the designer on that model? I know what you mean,this one was never in charter, it has a deepish bulb keel and a fairly decent rig/sailplan, it looks like it would go OK. Not sure if its cast iron or lead in the keel though. In anycase I'm looking at something else for now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank 157 Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 Some of the older Bavarias were not great sailers, if your serious about that one, whose the designer on that model? Designer was J and J Design , never heard of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,230 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 http://jnj.design/ They have done lots of boats for mainstream builders. None of them particularly great performers as far as I can see. Iirc that's why bavaria more recently went to the Farr office.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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