Addem 94 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 So, another day, another win by NZ by umpire call. Right call this time too. I guess the naysayers among us (me) were wrong. These races are not sailing as we know it but are packed with action and pathos. TNZ showed good speed today which enabled them to get close enough to pick up the penalty. Kudos there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 511 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 TNZ didn't need the umpire call. Amazed how useless the Artemis light foils are. They don't even look like anyone else's. The wind is light going forward so they are in big trouble Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Its a bit unfair to call it a win by umpire. Was an obvious port starboard, Artemis too close, only just though. In contrast to yesterday, NZ looked good uphill, slower downhill, whereas yesterday the opposite seemed to be happening. Stressful race to watch. Was very surprised by the loss of artemis to the crash test dummy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Yup - Tuke and Ashby well and truly set that mark rounding up perfectly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 397 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Another hard one tomorrow, this is no good for my blood pressure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B00B00 306 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Agree with clipper, the penalty made no difference at all in that race. Has it even been confirmed that there was a penalty? The boys are showing some great pace in the lighter airs! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freedom 0 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Could someone please post the link like they did yesterday where I can watch todays race - TNZ v Artemis. The'' app'' in my region is hopeless. Thanks much appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,211 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 ETNZ V Artemis https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxIm00ZuX5lXMjBGOUJOemJDNDQ France v USA https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxIm00ZuX5lXTTY1Sk1EQW44SEU Sweden V UK https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxIm00ZuX5lXSkZfNHB4ZzdxeWc 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Addem 94 Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 To clarify, I didn't intend to suggest that TNZ needed the penalty as they chose the lay line to perfection, merely that they appeared to get one. Also Can't explain why Artemis crash landed that last gybe other than a slowdown penalty, it was uncharacteristic otherwise. Of course, it didn't matter because they had been passed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 511 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Fairfax showing again why they should be euthanised, not merged Quote Link to post Share on other sites
muzled 140 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Comedy at the press conference. Journalist to Spitball - Jimmy, we saw someone pedaling behind you today... Spitball - 'pauses', oh yeah it's just this hybrid system we've developed bla bla... https://youtu.be/aimY0BVt1Dg Be a brave man that bets against every boat having the bike system next time the cup comes around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 yeh but what matters most is will it get TNZ the cup this time round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freedom 0 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Great - Thanks island time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Todd Niall from RNZ makes a run for most inane question of the day - https://youtu.be/aimY0BVt1Dg?t=449 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khayyam 68 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I would think that if TNZ do win this one, it may well not be foiling cats next time... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clive 13 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 ETNZ V Artemis https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxIm00ZuX5lXMjBGOUJOemJDNDQ France v USA https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxIm00ZuX5lXTTY1Sk1EQW44SEU Sweden V UK https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxIm00ZuX5lXSkZfNHB4ZzdxeWc Excellent! Thanks for this .. it is the only way I get to see the race! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 just watched the replay - doesn't appear from the graphics that a penalty was awarded. Is there some way to check this. I see a few of scenarios. 1. TNZ did not bother protesting as they knew they had it in the bag - Artemis just gave up on that gybe after the mark also 2. TNZ did protest - was given but imediately rubbed out because there was already a delta of more than two boat lengths after the incident 3. TNZ did protest but umpires did not deem a penalty Do the graphics indicate if a penalty has been "called"? If it's 2. above then it does seem like a slight flaw in the application of the penalty rule - while TNZ were 2 boat lengths ahead, that was a consequence of their superior play rather than Artemis being penalised for a foul. Bloody American coverage frankly is just sh*t as is the Virtual Eye - why does it take most of the day to put the Virtual Eye replay up on the website? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Addem 94 Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 Agree on the coverage. When Oracle started having problems with their wing, the commentators kept repeating that is was just the zip having come undone. Even when it was obvious that there was a problem up at the top of the wing they made no comment about it nor attempt to get some footage. I get that they are paid by Oracle but it doesn't change the frustration factor. Has anyone heard what the issue was? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khayyam 68 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 on sky there's an alternative audio stream. anyone tried that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clive 13 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Anyone got a copy of Race 14 - Art v ETNZ? I would love to see the full race. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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