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Re the YNZ negativity

Angus came on YNZ time and spent a day checking over the boats prior to RNZ

We call it a safety check but it’s more a chat and have you done this or thought of that, plus how will you handle this situation. An independent third party overview of there systems.

I know keel boat clubs put into YNZ a substantial amount of money but I think we can be our own worst enemy on this one, for instance when was the last time you as a keel boat club asked YNZ for help ?

I think our expectations are low and they get fulfilled, the more I’ve ask YNZ for assistance the more I’ve received as a race organiser.

More simple put if we aren’t asking for specific help they will spend their money and time assisting the ones who do.

Just my 2 pence worth

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I'm thinking 2 boats have made a better call than the other 5.

 

I'm also thinking the next 36-48 hours are going to be rather frustrating.

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I’m thinking two boats have made one call and perhaps two others are making another

The other 3 are either working into or out of holes

Will be very interesting to see if working the inshore coastal effects or the buffalo girl will pay off.

After doing the last one I’m of the thought the I would go wide then bang the corner, but it’s fascinating how fast the systems come at that corner and therefore if you hit it right your going to be walking forward on the travelator, however if you don’t strike it right you will be running into it.

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Comprehension has never been a strong point KM- Could you please elucidate your comments for those of us who missed the point?

Or possibly keep this thread for RNZ and move the YNZ stuff to the YNZ section?..............................................................................

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I’m thinking two boats have made one call and perhaps two others are making another

The other 3 are either working into or out of holes

Will be very interesting to see if working the inshore coastal effects or the buffalo girl will pay off.

After doing the last one I’m of the thought the I would go wide then bang the corner, but it’s fascinating how fast the systems come at that corner and therefore if you hit it right your going to be walking forward on the travelator, however if you don’t strike it right you will be running into it.

Agree... the truxtanium and the green machine still look like they are going to run into it....will be a long beat for the others methinks

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YNZ have no interest in local boating, it's not what they are there for.

You might be right on the MSM comment but totally disagree with this bit, I’m currently commodore of a very small Akl yacht club (just 60 families) and also have been involved in many other clubs and events over the years - I cannot speak highly enough of the support we get. Often we don’t need to ask, it’s offered. The YNZ people I see most of like Angus, Andrew, Kelly, Raynor, Wayne and Kim (especially Kim!) are incredibly interested in what we do, plugged in to whats happening and helpful.

 

Maybe it’s because the clubs and associations I’ve been involved in (including Olympic and NZ classes) have worked to keep the lines of communication open.

 

Enjoying tracking the RNZ and it’s got me fired up and looking forward to doing another RNI, hopefully next year.

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You might be right on the MSM comment Which was what the OP suggested they may have been or could be and the responder replied to saying that's not what YNZ do.

Nothing more.

 

Can we move on now please.  It may help divert my mind from the now vulgar profits I'm raking in, much thanks to you lot, from my shares in the tinfoil manufacturing industry.

 

So how about Lisa, Anna and Tom. Well done you.

 

Ouch, 2 have a nice jump.

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Back to the round NZ what an interesting race.  I'm loving working out the weather and what's coming, interesting moves, some models yesterday showed South East, might be interesting.  Next 24 hours will be very interesting.  I've sailed down that way and the wave height will be fantastic!!

 

Would be fantastic to see more boats do this race.  

 

Good to hear some updates from the yachts.  Does anyone think anyone think any of the yachts will seek shelter in Milford?  Might be going backwards otherwise?  

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Back to the round NZ what an interesting race.  I'm loving working out the weather and what's coming, interesting moves, some models yesterday showed South East, might be interesting.  Next 24 hours will be very interesting.  I've sailed down that way and the wave height will be fantastic!!

 

Would be fantastic to see more boats do this race.  

“Yes but we only have a limited number of crazy sailors in this county”

 

Good to hear some updates from the yachts. 

“Updates coming off the yachts daily on Facebook”

 

Does anyone think anyone think any of the yachts will seek shelter in Milford?  Might be going backwards otherwise?

“It’s an option in the Sailing Instructions and I’ll be surprised if none of the fleet use it”

 

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Would be fantastic to see more boats do this race. 

There were 4 others very keen to go but as they are all 30fters they are unsafe outside of the Hauraki Gulf so I was told.

Most reckon it's simply a case the bigger boats don't want to be embarrassed by the better set up and stronger smaller ones.

 

The A division got a nice jump on the B over night and look like they will extend that before the finish.

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KM your talking through a hole in your head

Small yachts would have been considered under the rule below

“SSANZ reserves the right to include or exclude any yacht”

We didn’t have one yacht ask it we would consider them

Easy to say there were 4 now that it’s happening, it’s a different story making sh*t happen and fronting up

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Yes I'm using the exact same hole I had a discussion with you about entering. What you told me is why we did not push on and try to do so.  That was perfectly fine and totally understandable as it is your game so you can set the rules. None of us had a problem with that BUT if you make statements saying others did not want to do the race then you do run the risk those that did will say so out loud and one just did ;)

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I told you the same thing I’ve told anyone else who has enquired

Show us your up to it, and we will consider your application positively

However just saying that your boat is capable isn’t something that we can justify risking your life and our organisation on, there needs to be a level of accountability on all sides. Otherwise we aren’t doing our job, every entry is assessed for its suitability to partake in each event irrespective on size.

I’m currently working with a young guy that’s keen on entering his yacht in next years RNI. The yacht is on the minimum limit or close to it, I’ve been emailing the designer who has told me that the design that’s 30 years old now was originally drawn it handle this type of race, it wouldn’t meet the current stands for this however, but he will recommend the yacht as suitable after he has done a inspection and is satisfied that it’s been maintained well and is still in good condition. There will probably be some extra conditions to this entry due to its minimum size and two raitively inexperienced co skippers. This could be that we will expect a higher standard of qualifying, say two races of 250nm instead of just one, or something along these lines.

We need to be able to justify all our decisions in front of a coroner if it came to that.

It’s not the person that said they were up to it we have to justify our decisions to but their family when they don’t come home.

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Again, a very well written reply for such a poor reader ;)

 

To say it yet again, we have absolutely no problem with the way SSANZ makes it's calls, none what so ever. Sure we may differ a little in what we think is a safe length on occasions but it's your game so you get to win calls like that, as you should. There also looked to be a probable capacity issue at the time of the discussion. It was a good chat and you put SSANZs point of view across very clearly, cleanly in a very well reasoned manner, as you usually do. With that info in hand we little fellas decided why bother pushing on for spots that clearly were not there to be had at the time.

 

Should we have pushed on we would fully expect all aspect of the vessels and crews to be fully investigated by SSANZ to ensure they are up to it just as SSANZ has wisely done for all other boats.

 

But to suggest no other boats were keen to do the race is incorrect. My post was simply a correction of that .........oh and a possible explanation why, which some may regard as more smack talk than based in truth....... but only because it was :P

 

This thread does seem to be suffering from people 'reading into' when all they should be doing is just 'reading'.

 

Back to checking the commodities market, word has it thin sheet alloy has gone up again ;)

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