cj! 19 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 So, now Maritime NZ requires that all vessels must have the required ratio of crew with an Advanced Sea Survival qualification (30% of crew or at least two crew members) and a Procedures Manual. http://www.marinebusiness.com.au/news/maritime-nz-tightens-yacht-safety-rules Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dtwo 157 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Old news. Been that way for a while, don't know the specifics. Grrr. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 642 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 So, now Maritime NZ requires that all vessels must have the required ratio of crew with an Advanced Sea Survival qualification (30% of crew or at least two crew members) and a Procedures Manual. http://www.marinebusiness.com.au/news/maritime-nz-tightens-yacht-safety-rules and sailing solo,what use would the manual be?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cj! 19 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Old news. Been that way for a while, don't know the specifics. Grrr. The way they talk about it, it was standard for racing but new for recreational yachts. I suppose if they do end up dropping the registration fees then the money saved will be spent on more courses. Is there a template for the manual that people have used or has everybody just done it from scratch? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dtwo 157 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 There is a template of sorts in the YNZ Safety Regulations of Sailing. I downloaded a free copy some time ago, looking for it now seems they want $23. To help keep you safe. And their lavish lifestyle paid for. Grrr. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Personally I think they are fantastic as they remove the need to have any knowledge of your boat, seamanship skills or common sense. Not unlike GPS and EPIRBS, there are too many cases of those doing the same thing. Now that is just blatant trolling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Yeap I agree. It certainly could seem that way but only for those with insufficient knowledge of their tools and how to use them correctly/safely. The rest of us do not need to read what we already know. Are you saying you've worked out how to use all the features on your new lectonics you've installed then? There was a post a while back where you seemed surprised at some of the capability your gear had, that you weren't aware of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I guess its good to know what you don't know, if you are sure you know it. Nothing worse than not knowing what you don't know. But I do suspect that our discussions around flares and lectronics may be different if you did know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YNZ 14 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 There is a template of sorts in the YNZ Safety Regulations of Sailing. I downloaded a free copy some time ago, looking for it now seems they want $23. To help keep you safe. And their lavish lifestyle paid for. Grrr. It's still available, and still free... https://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/racing/safety-regulations There is also a copy of the inspector checklist which you can download, here: https://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/racing/safety-inspections Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cj! 19 Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 I find it interesting that I don't need a Cat 1 to sail to the Kermadecs or down south to Campbell Island. Perhaps Maritime NZ thinks these are safer areas to sail? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dtwo 157 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 It's still available, and still free... https://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/racing/safety-regulations There is also a copy of the inspector checklist which you can download, here: https://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/racing/safety-inspections Oops, my bad, didn't think to look under "Racing". Best I buy something made from carbon fibre, paint it a shade of fluorescent and get with the program.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dtwo 157 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 YNZ, a question - why don't YNZ take over the Part B registration process from Maritime New Zealand? Would seem to be a better fit, and would be a lot more affordable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 YNZ, a question - why don't YNZ take over the Part B registration process from Maritime New Zealand? Would seem to be a better fit, and would be a lot more affordable. They're too busy focusing on Olympics. You'd need to start by explaining to YNZ what a cruising sailor is, then what a keel boat is... Although that might change with the 2 handed offshore class now approved for the Paris Olympics..., that is a keel boat of sorts. Miles off cat 1 requirements but still a keel boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 What do you need handbag overflow storage for KM? You can't say your missus, you've always said you were setting this up for solo... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 360 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Stage one fish is garden ornament by the way if you hadn’t figured 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 374 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 It's still available, and still free... https://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/racing/safety-regulations There is also a copy of the inspector checklist which you can download, here: https://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/racing/safety-inspections According to this, BP doesn't need a stability certificate to get Cat 1, but rather, "For non racing yachts the inspectors may use their discretion regarding stability, providing that they are satisfied the vessel is self righting from a knockdown that submerges the masthead." - YNZ Safety Regulations of Sailing 2017-2020, Page 24, part 6.0. I thought this was previously a sticking point? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,581 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 That's correct. Currently. But until recently I didn't have to do their pointless how to get rescued course either. Now that has changed. I don't trust them not to include this in future. Meantime racing is out for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YNZ 14 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Oops, my bad, didn't think to look under "Racing". Best I buy something made from carbon fibre, paint it a shade of fluorescent and get with the program.... I have gone ahead and added links to the Recreational section, which should hopefully help people find the information easier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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