Clipper 343 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 http://s227.photobucket.com/user/Waione_photos/media/misc%2016/20161127_110059.jpg.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregW 28 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 "Was used in anger a number of times, most memorably a singlehanded blast back from kawau while as hung over as f&ck. Think it was 1 hour 15 mins from bee hive to north head? Actually, i must have a photo, a crew.org guy took some as i went past. I’ll try and find". I remember that, I was parked in Torpedo Bay with a broken rudder waiting for the 40kt + westerly to ease, when you sailed past. Looked a good rig for those conditions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adrianp 119 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 This is why you need an inner forestay with a deep reef! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 see - ali rigs are good - nice and flexi! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,230 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 This is why you need an inner forestay with a deep reef!Je&^# Adrian, thats a bit scary! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 That was minutes (maybe seconds) before it snapped. 1 of 2 masts that came down that day due to deep reefed mains without inner forestays Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Freedom GBE 27 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Wont forget that day. Easy 25 knots on the start, fractional kite up. Wind got up, sending it through a small gap between the wharfs and a container ship. Couldnt slow down or go forward to drop untill behind the container terminals. Pumped and like so far ahead of the fleet. We didnt reef to second reef because we didnt have the inner forestay set up properly and had the lecture form the inspector. Bare headed, so overpowered, couldnt reach, only point upwind or smoke down wind to Narrowneck. Now blowing 40+ which wasnt in the forecast at all. Attitude passed as per pic above, we tacked rather than gybed and busted the top slides on the main. Race over, limp acrross to Okahu Bay under gib only. Couldnt go upwind.tried motoring but then the prop bushes burned out. Managed to reverse into Okahu Marina and waited for hours until the wind dropped. I recomend a cat three inspection from Tim Clissold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I stayed on the mooring that day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NZTiger 17 Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 That's a pretty convincing argument for the inner forestay. Just out of interest, if you dropped the main when trying to make progress in 40 knots and sail with the heavy weather jib only, would a GBE be controllable both upwind and downwind? and would you still get the inverted bend in the mast from the heavy weather jib pulling the crap out of the normal forestay? (assuming you didn't have an inner forestay) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Mast supported by the sidestays, so no issues under jib only mast wise. Downwind no issues. Upwind would be damn near possible to point as bow keeps getting blown off and a tack would be impossible id say. Light boat, lots of windage, not much sail. Ive done 14 knots in flat water with a storm jib only (broad reaching) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimB 7 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 "Upwind would be damn near possible to point" Surely that is meant to be IMpossible? tb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Yip, impossible Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 a certain light-weight multi guru friend of mine keeps commenting that the rig on capricorn has far too much windage, stays + diamonds, for such a short rig i always tell him it's a trimaran with more beam than the designer recommended and a square-head so fat, the sail's almost rectangular it doesn't lie down to dump invisible monster gusts it just spits the rig off after 2 normalish rigs exited stage right belts + braces has stayed the course am hoping the fwd diamond takes the place of an inner forestay.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 511 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 am hoping the fwd diamond takes the place of an inner forestay.. It won’t. Faces the wrong way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MartinRF 53 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I hope the outer diamonds are fixed to the spreader tips. It is not unusual to overlook this important detail. It does not replace an inner forestay but is important anyway. The actual staying does not look overdone to me but there is a lot of other things adding clutter and drag. Lazyjacks, halyards etc, some of which will be out of the way when sailing. /Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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