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Hey guys just cool it OK, you are letting facts get in the way of some peoples beliefs.  You shouldn't use your leftie/commie/socialist/gummint/science arguments to win an arse kicking competition against one-legged men.  It just isn't fair!  People can believe what they want to believe, no matter how badly researched and utterly bereft of any critical thinking. 

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And what do the last few posts have to do with dumping of sludge off Gt Barrier island??  The question is,is it safe,does it contain toxins,will it settle and not drift??

 

Why not dump ashore or just not dredge it as the AC is gearing up to be a failure in terms of syndicates anyway.

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Be very interesting to see what amount of dredging has made its way to Gt Barrier vs the convoy of truck trailer deliveries to land bases disposal.

My understanding for the disposal consents issued for Gt Barrier is that they far exceed what was required for the AC Base developments.

So what other dredging are these consents accommodating as the volumes are rather large.

Maybe Auckland marinas spoil which most certainly would have to be toxic as.

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There has been a dump site off shore from Cuvier IslandDid they cover all the bombs up with all the crap they have been dumping there since the second world war.

 

I thought it was a renewal of the old consent, or is this the same old dumping ground, with this new excavation being ok'd to go there.

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There has been a dump site off shore from Cuvier IslandDid they cover all the bombs up with all the crap they have been dumping there since the second world war.

 

I thought it was a renewal of the old consent, or is this the same old dumping ground, with this new excavation being ok'd to go there.

 

My reading was that it is an existing dumping site and a kind of renewal to allow dredging from existing plus new areas.

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My reading was that it is an existing dumping site and a kind of renewal to allow dredging from existing plus new areas.

 

 

If that is the case, One would off thought that there would be an abundance of evidence of problems over the years.

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If that is the case, One would off thought that there would be an abundance of evidence of problems over the years.

Depends on how much is actually being dumped.....generally it is for a specific project ...

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Cuvier Island consent expires in 2054. Capital dredge volume of 2,000,000m3 with a maximum of 50,000m3 per year. Whitianga game fish club are not too pleased and I can't say I blame them.

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The dumping site is 15km wide and between 700m and 1200m deep. I think it is an extension of an existing consent.

I think you’ll find it’s not 15km wide but 1.5km radius (so 3km wide).

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The dump location is at 36 deg 12.3403 S and 175 deg 48.002 E

It is literally just outside the 12 mile limit. It happens that the closest point of Gt Barrier is 13.4 nm away.

Additionally, the Cuvier Island Wildlife Sanctuary is also 13.4 nm away, almost due south (183 degs).

Its in 140 m to 150 m of water.

 

Which way does the East Auckland current flow?

All I remember of that area is diving at Rakitu in the most amazingly clear water, perfect viz at 18-20 m, like swimming in an aquarium. Of course my memories may be a little enhanced as I was happily narked at the time and really enjoying the experience...

 

I think my biggest issue with this whole business is that the consent is for a private company. At most it has 4 shareholders, but through the odd holding company appears to have the vast majority of shares held by one or two men.

 

These two guys stand to profit at either a great environmental cost to the public, or if not a cost, then a substantial risk to the environment.

 

There isn't any wider greater good to this. Its not like the public works act needs to be or can be used here. There have been projects in the past with substantial environmental cost, but which also came is large and quantifiable public benefit, i.e. Think Big and the big hydro dams of the South Island. The country secured its energy supplies for future security and prosperity. There is none of that here. There isn't even any major construction or other employment (compared to building dams), unless you count skippering a barge back and forth threw Colville Channel, which sounds painful to me.

 

Its just two guys profiting with no economic benefit to the public, but with great environmental risk.

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