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I am aware that that was the proposal and indeed i believe that did happen. However I have been staying in the Mahurangi lately and have observed the barge leaving the harbour daily in the morn and returning in the afternoon.

 

Roughly 10 hour trip about the time it would take to go? Pushing a barge. 

There is some maintenance dredging being undertaken at the Sandspit marina at present and Peter Thompson is doing the work

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This whole discussion is somewhat farcical.  On one side we have Aleana and IT plus a couple of others who can be bothered actually reading the reports and the rest either diligently refusing to or wanting others to do the work for them.  

 

For those still too lazy to type EPA in google as I suggested on about page 3 or 4 here is the link:

 

https://www.epa.govt.nz/public-consultations/decided/coastal-resources-limited/

 

As I said earlier, I personally have better things to do with my time, but feel free to continue to debate from a position of lazy outrage, or go and do some reading.

 

All I can say is that in consenting a reasonable number of rather large and at times contentious projects the processes are very thorough.  You might not like the outcomes, but life is like that and unfortunately there are better informed people in the world than any of us on many, many subjects.

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How many people do you think "read the report" before they go ahead and vote for a government and local council? At best some one reads a report, posts online some where about it and the masses will believe its the whole story. Pretty easy to lead the blind either way, just depends upon  who can be bothered.

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Rehab - Hard to think anyone has an inability to access a website these days, but anyway, if they have memory loss they will have forgotten about the dumping before they get around to worrying about it!

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There is some maintenance dredging being undertaken at the Sandspit marina at present and Peter Thompson is doing the work

 

 

Thanks for that. 

 

that would make sense he probably bringing the stuff back to the farm for dumping.

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Shows you do not know anything thing about short term memory loss.

It's not the inability to access a website but the inability to fund the access for long periods because of limited disposable income..

Sorry, forgotten what we were discussing.

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I feel some duty here. My Mrs does environmental work on the island. I know the shop owners. I know a lot of locals. And a frecking love fishing and spearing out there as its the best way to catch food without bi kill, selective hunting.

This will just ruin what should be marine protected, not a marine reserve but something close to it where only recreational fisherman outside the island fisherman and those willing to cross the colville strait are allowed to fish. Perhaps a permit for non locals.

Either way, WTF is the dumping for, surely not the Am Cup scoop out in Auckland? I heard they were dumb enough to consider dumping that near the poor knights marine reserve

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And where is the P.O.A going to dump the dredging's for their latest application if consent is given. The dredging's will be many hundreds perhaps many thousand times more than this threads is talking about. The entire channel from Takapuna mid to north beach all the way to the container wharfs to allow extra large container vessels to berth. It's part of their 30 year plan. Stage one has been granted. Looks like moving the container port has been dumped also.

“If you read the report” (my usual war-cry) you’d see that the 30 yr consent for dumping is to cater for a wide range of dredging areas across Northland and Waikato including rivers, estuaries, marinas and other channels. It’s not just for the AC basin.

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Aleana

 

I think this time an apology is in order.

 

I did not say just the AC basin. In fact it has notting to do with the AC basin dredgings.

 

P.O.A. Channel deeping project.

 

http://www.poal.co.nz/sustain/Documents/POAL%20Channel%20Deepening.pdf

My last comment was indeed aimed at TwoSail not you Rehab. I see that having pressed the quote button it didn't pick up the right post.

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follow up email sent and await reply

 

Thank you for your reply Hon Eugenie Sage
 
Will the testing for metals,fan worm etc will it be done at time of dredging and where will I be able to find the test results?
 
The concern is the dump site being only about 20kms off Gt Barrier Island and as of today there is no presence of fan worm .With a good easterly gale the silt etc will move and possibly disturb the content to enable it to wash ashore at Gt Barrier Island 
 
Why cant the material be extracted and not be shipped ashore and used as base for roading.I can see a risk if it was to be transported as any liquid could find its way in to the storm water system but then is it anymore risky than barging to a dump ground as the liquid will trickle its way across the Hauraki Gulf.
 
Regards
Paul Carnahan
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Win!

 

The High Court has ruled in their favour quashing a decision from the Environmental Protection Authority, which gave Coastal Resources Limited (CRL) permission to massively increase dumping to 250,000cu/m per year.

Two island groups argued the Authority failed to consult properly with local Māori and complained there was not a single public hearing on Great Barrier.

The High Court has agreed, ordering the Authority to start again and this time to listen to its own Māori Advisory Committee on who to consult.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/404778/great-barrier-residents-win-reprieve-over-dredged-waste-increase

 

I love it when a really simple argument trumps all the specialist reports, complex arguments and convoluted BS.

1) EPA did not consult the locals, i.e. the people their decision will effect,

2) EPA did not hold a single public hearing on the Island.

 

Now they get to start again.

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