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So one of these almost hit me yesterday out in the Waitemata....


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So, never 5.1 knots within a 5 knot zone. Never popped down below to put the jug on when no-one else was keeping a watch. Never forgot to turn nav lights/anchor lights on. Never used the masthead tricolour instead of deck-level nav lights. You sir, are a saint!

Crikey Dtwo you are really clutching at straws aren’t you.

.1 of a knot wtf are you on man.

Yup ,I am a great consumer of tea and why would I choose to put the billy on without perusing the landscape before putting myself or my cuppa at risk.

What lights you choose to show is entirely your choice however it’s a no brainer to switch on what lights which are correctly required.

It’s called seamanship that’s what sailors do.

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Interesting thread.. Thanks for posting Zane. I can’t understand the angst that you have received from some but par for the course these days I guess. Thread drift but are you happy with your junk?

 

Aye. well the interwebs is the avenue for good talk and for a bit of bullshit thrown in.  You give you take, you expect.

 

Junk Rig is great.  A few refinements needed, but loving the simplicity of the rig.

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How do you deal with wear between mast and battens? How did you camber the sail? Are the battens hinged?

 

This thread just got more interesting.

 

Need to add anti chafe, eg a plastic sheave.

Sails cut somewhat like a barrel to add camber - I'm not a sail maker, had it professionally cut and sewed by a guy specialises in these type of sails.

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Yeah similar to 'Jester'.  Jester was a folkboat,  My boat is a 'Contessa 26' based off the folkboat. Designed by David Sadler - an Englishman whom only recently passed away in his 90's in the Bay of Islands.

I've modified mine with future ocean crossings in mind, though in her original configuration the design has been circumnavigated solo by three people, one of them engineless...in fact he circumnavigated twice engineless in his one 'Tai Fun' - which is currently for sale in UK:  https://www.jeremyrogers.co.uk/brokerage/tai-fun.php

The design has also raced across the Atlantic many times in 60's & 70's, but she is obviously slow by today's standards.  But when the chips are down, there are not many small boats I'd rather be in.

 

More info:  http://bluewaterboats.org/contessa-26/

 

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David Sadler's Contessa boats have a great reputation. The Contessa 32 has a reputation for being bomb proof, and the ability to win a good coastal / offshore race given the right conditions. Really well proven in the Fastnet, including '79, survived / finished I think, and some other year won overall an corrected (i.e. the big trophy everyone races for). I assume it was light that year.

 

I'm sure the 26 is no difference, and a very good pedigree. I'd love to hear more about it.

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nothing worst than enjoying a quiet sail when you get a clown who has superior boat speed and the whole of the harbour to play on,cuts close,yep i am a prick in that situation. it can wrong quickly,what if Zozza had to take abrasive action to avoid the clown,nothing worst to ruin a family day out.

HT, Letting your painter out would be pretty damn abrasive action, in fact if you happened to cause an accident and someone was injured, i think you’d have a hard time avoiding a prison sentence... just like you’d have a hard time avoiding a prison sentence if you threw a brick through the window of the car onto the driver after he’d stopped at the pedestrian crossing for you...

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We all have legal requirement to report near misses/accidents and other things,injury etc

But can see a lot of time wasted form filling.

 

https://www.maritimenz.govt.nz/commercial/safety/accidents-reporting

 

Q. What’s the definition of an accident, incident or serious harm injury?

Accidents include events such as any damage to a vessel which may affect its strength or seaworthiness, groundings, collisions, machinery failures and steering loss.

Incidents include a near collision or a near grounding.

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Who is responsible for the policing of inner harbour rules.

Rarely see the Harbour Master lifting a regular finger of effort rounding up the ever growing tide of dangerous arrogant uneducated discourteous twits so I assume the burden must fall on the shoulders of Zorro.

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Who is responsible for the policing of inner harbour rules.

Rarely see the Harbour Master lifting a regular finger of effort rounding up the ever growing tide of dangerous arrogant uneducated discourteous twits so I assume the burden must fall on the shoulders of Zorro.

exactly,we have no law enforcement waterborne unlike the aussies. Coastguard is there purely to save lives not enforce rules.

Harbour master well thats a joke in its self. Try ringing after hours and see how you get on!

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"the rules are simple to learn and simple to observe and implement."

 

 

surprised no one else jumped on this one, never been to a yacht club after a race either?

Interesting to note, that after 2 weeks lurking around in France I got the feeling that on average the boats were far better maintained and sailed than the majority I see in marinas or bays in nz. Many smaller older boats with sparking antifoul. All neat and ship shape. All using day shapes, and all using anchor lights even in Anchorages away from fairways etc. I saw 1 vessel without an anchor light and 20 min later he’d hung a lantern up.

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That's what we need, more bureaucrats and enforcement officers running round telling us what to do all day issuing fines and notices, all boaties should be licenced and have to receive permission before embarking on any passage, it's a wonder the government hadn't got the process underway already.

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Not suggesting that at all.

If the Harbour Master had a more visible presence possibly behaviour may well change.

Kind of like the looney behaviour one encounters on the road seeing that the police have backed away from being visible on the roads.

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We all behave when we see a cop car,so visual on the water by authorities would make a difference too some. In general I think most of us abide by the rules and show some form of courtesy whether we are in the right or wrong .

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There's an issue of caution on the part of the give-way vessel. What if you are aiming to miss by three feet but you get hit by a gust and round up? Happened to me -- I put a nice hole in the other boat just about midway down his cockpit. Now, in that case, both boats were racing and -- as the other skipper very graciously said -- sh*t happens when you race.

 

The OP presents a situation in which the racers, in my view, should have taken into account the possibility that wind and sea conditions might have caused a mishap involving a boat that was not part of their race. OTOH, perhaps the sea was dead flat and wind perfectly steady, in which NP. But even in that rare instance, I agree they should have been more cautious.

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The most dangerous bit of boating I have seen was the harbour masters boat screaming up the inside of the pole berths going up the eastern side of the tamaki river, went past my moored boat no more than 3 metres away doing what looked like 30 knots. Didn’t really notice it coming until it was there , very dangerous if someone was heading ashore in a dinghy. Happened about 2 years ago , no idea what the rush was.

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