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8 minutes ago, TazzyDevil said:

So looks like I can at least check on my boat, and finish a few jobs off!

 

nothing about diving so can do that and nothing about sailing in non- motorised boats that aren’t yachts so the PT will get a hoon at my local beach!

You're out of luck

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How far can I drive to do a recreation activity?

You should drive as short a distance as you can, and still do the activity. You must stay local.

Hunting, boating, yachting and any team sports or training are not allowed.

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12 minutes ago, Puff said:

You're out of luck

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How far can I drive to do a recreation activity?

You should drive as short a distance as you can, and still do the activity. You must stay local.

Hunting, boating, yachting and any team sports or training are not allowed.

I live at the beach and sailing a beach cat is not yachting- no different to surfing in terms of so my read is I’ll be all good. Kind of like how Winnie is good to fish off his lawn in lockdown.

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Boating is out but it was noted quite specifically 'any motorised boats'. If you have to motor out of a berth then you're sh*t out of luck.

If you have a real yacht then you're good to go.

So what beach is the startline off and what time is kick off Tazzy? :)

 

We already have a tentative date of Saturday week for a get back into it race off Westhaven if anyone's keen to come for a play. BYO for a dock based bevvie after-match seeing clubs are probably still supposed to be closed. More news as it comes to hand.

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44 minutes ago, whitepointer said:

Sorry, I take that back, I am not a racist, 

You have nothing to take back. Asians do exist, there is literally billions of them, and many do fish.

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Where is this whole "motorised" rumour coming from

 

Here is the official Covid-19 page

 

https://covid19.govt.nz/alert-system/alert-level-3

 

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Recreation

We know that exercise and recreation is an important part of maintaining our health and wellbeing. However, this also presents a very high risk of transmission if we come into contact with others, use or touch common equipment or surfaces, or need rescuing or medical care.

The most important principle here is to stay safe (so that you do not need rescuing or medical care), and to stay physically distant from people outside of your bubble.

You can do activities that are local, which you can do safely, and which do not involve interacting with other people, or equipment touched by other people. You should go to your nearest beach or park, not your favourite one. Staying overnight at a bach or holiday home is not permitted.

If you are an experienced surfer, you can go to your local break. If you’re not experienced, don’t surf. If you want to go fishing you can do so from a wharf or the shore, but don’t cast off the rocks or fish from a boat (boating is not allowed). Tramping is ok for day walks on easy trails, same for mountain biking if you are experienced and know the trail. Please be aware of maintaining two metres distance from other people.

Do not use any common equipment touched by people from outside your bubble.

Now is not the time to take up new activities, or expose yourself or your bubble to any risk. Use your common sense – stay local, stay safe.

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How far can I drive to do a recreation activity?

You should drive as short a distance as you can, and still do the activity. You must stay local.

Hunting, boating, yachting and any team sports or training are not allowed.

What sort of activities can I do?

You can drive to a nearby area to go for a walk or run, for example a beach 45 minutes away. This could mean travelling outside your region if the nearest beach or park if it is still within a close distance to your home – for example travelling from Porirua to Paraparaumu.

You can go for a swim at the beach, a day walk, or fishing from a wharf.

 

 

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A coping strategy...

Am

What shall we do with a locked-down sailor?

G

What shall we do with a locked-down sailor?

Am

What shall we do with a locked-down sailor?

C     G      Am

Early in the morning

    [Ch]

   Way-hey and up she rises…

Bleat about the lockdown till it’s over…

Stare at the water and curse Jacinda…

Sneak down the inlet before it’s daylight..

Drink all the rum (there’ll be none for sailing)…

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Cindy also said that everybody who has a job is in an essential service.  So everyone working can go anywhere.  She said it, Im sticking to it.

I still think not allowing boating is crazy.  The hospitals are not full, quite the opposite, the coast guard are not busy (wonder why) the marine Police are doing nothing, the harbourmaster, nothing (nothing new there).

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50 minutes ago, ScottiE said:

Puff - it was a specific comment made by the PM at her daily conference today. We really should just ignore what she says - after all she does have form

What he said.

In the 6pm news the dude running thru the can and can't do list after BL had spoken said 'boating' and then added 'with motors' as if he'd nearly forgotten to say it. It was very intentional and he was reading it not running on memory.

But as the wise, occasionally ;), poster I quoted mentioned, form does suggest the list and descriptions will probably change before lunch........and probably daily.

 

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Hmmm..... According to ACC claims history cycling has already generated over 20,500 claims year to date, this 2019/20 year that is. Bikes come in at No4 of the recreational activity/sporting Top 20 list.

The Exercise the Govt has been pushing comes in at No2 with over 31,500 claims.

Jogging, another Govt encouraged activity is No7 with 9000 claims.

The closest thing to anything boat or marine related in the Top 20 would be Snowboarding which comes in at No20.  Snowboards look like wakeboards is the theory there.

There is the category 'Other' on the bottom that picks up all the rest, which I'm assuming is where sailing sits. The total for 'Other', 69K, is over 14,000 less than the total of top 3 activities combined. The top 3 being Rugby, Soccer and Fitness Training/Gym

 

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8 minutes ago, Knot Me... maybe said:

Hmmm..... According to ACC claims history cycling has already generated over 20,500 claims year to date, this 2019/20 year that is. Bikes come in at No4 of the recreational activity/sporting Top 20 list.

The Exercise the Govt has been pushing comes in at No2 with over 31,500 claims.

Jogging, another Govt encouraged activity is No7 with 9000 claims.

The closest thing to anything boat or marine related in the Top 20 would be Snowboarding which comes in at No20.  Snowboards look like wakeboards is the theory there.

There is the category 'Other' on the bottom that picks up all the rest, which I'm assuming is where sailing sits. The total for 'Other', 69K, is over 14,000 less than the total of top 3 activities combined. The top 3 being Rugby, Soccer and Fitness Training/Gym

 

That's a false comparison and therefore false conclusion; heaps more people bike, walk or ran than sail.

I'd be happier if everyone chilled and stopped thinking of ways to get around the rules.

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Basically sailing is so wide and generic, like boating.  The general idea is water is dangerous so therefore ban it.  Surfing was banned which is crazy and probably now back on as the backlash was strong.  You don't hear of many surfers getting in the sh*t.  

I assume that when we go to Level 3, the marina's will at least allow access?  Generally I find boating is more dangerous in the marina than out in the ocean, wiring and gas projects, drinking, falling into the water etc etc :-).   

I don't think many people are 'chilling' right now Kevin unless of course you have a cushy government position living off the tax payer tit.  If you own a business or employ people or have a bank breathing down your neck the 'chill' rate will be fairly low. 

Any activity that allows one to revitalise one's perspective on life is important and you can't claim that running, surfing or biking are more important than sailing.  The unseen factors here that no one will care about will be the depression, suicide and divorce rates in 8 weeks time when we get back to the new normal.  Maybe at least it will give Herald and Stuff something other than Covid 19 and Trump to report about.  

I'm all for people using common sense and get out and about on ya boats, what's the worse that can happen?  The police have no power and at best will slap you with a don't do that again. 

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Well said Southern Man , the Chill factor is bullshit  , as you say , unless you are a civil servant / council worker sucking off tax payer / rate payer. 

Even the idea of rowing out to moored boat or visiting a marina bound boat and checking it’s all okay would be a great tonic right now. 
 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Elliot749 said:

Even the idea of rowing out to moored boat or visiting a marina bound boat and checking it’s all okay would be a great tonic right now. 
 

 

 

I don’t think I’ve heard anything that would preclude that? If you travel in your bubble and locally / regionally (I think max 45 mins drive was the guidance) to check on your boat on its berth or mooring, I doubt you’d get in trouble for that. If you cast off and go sailing you’re obviously in breach of L3 rules. But simply checking on your boat where it is should be ok.

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8 minutes ago, Tamure said:

A bit harsh Elliot, we need council workers and civil servants, the pandemic is not their fault and I wouldn't insult a rubbish truck driver or the guys still cleaning the sewers. 

You forgot nurses and teachers.

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11 minutes ago, Black Panther said:

You forgot nurses and teachers.

Yes but that's not the point BP.  Those in the public sector almost and I do mean almost have a guaranteed job.  Those in the private sector, not so.  That is a huge difference and the point I was trying to make.  I agree fully that we need public servants however it's pretty rich when the public sector are bleating about how bad they have it.  At least they have a job.  Many in the private sector don't and won't for a long time.  

As always times like this affect the small guy and the poor, the rich well not much.  I don't begrudge or belittle anyone but I'm honestly sick of hearing about all the so called 'heros' out there at the end of the day they are doing their jobs..... well done to you... you have a job and will get paid for it. 

The bite is not now, it will hit us in 2-3 months time, we will see how smart people are then. 

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