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On 24/10/2020 at 12:37 PM, aardvarkash10 said:

Like the language of boats (why is a rope a sheet - its not flat, white and on the bed), the language of science can sometimes seem non-sensical.  Its not meant to make sense to a non-scientist.  

Its a rum thing.  Or is that rumb?  

Not wanting to sound too anal but....

most of our nautical terms are from old Norse (vikings) or Dutch.  A scete was the name of a sail and old English had it as SceteLine.  It was shortened to Scete and then shifted to Shete in old English (the same way Skiff and skirt from Dutch/Norse Shifted to ship and shirt)  
 

I don’t know about Rhumb but the Rh at the start looks Latin  

Halyard is easier.  It’s Rnhlish from Haul Yard.

I just thought You’d like to know.

 

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49 minutes ago, Addem said:

Not wanting to sound too anal but....

most of our nautical terms are from old Norse (vikings) or Dutch.  A scete was the name of a sail and old English had it as SceteLine.  It was shortened to Scete and then shifted to Shete in old English (the same way Skiff and skirt from Dutch/Norse Shifted to ship and shirt)  
 

I don’t know about Rhumb but the Rh at the start looks Latin  

Halyard is easier.  It’s Rnhlish from Haul Yard.

I just thought You’d like to know.

 

Addem - well done and thank you for posting a refreshing dose of well-educated insight. Please stick around and post here more frequently! 😊

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Like the Dutch designed "schooners" that revolutionized modern sailing . . 

(large craft that could sail to weather like demons) 

"early 18th century: perhaps from dialect scun ‘skim along’, influenced by Dutch words . . " 

As I recall from a year or so ago, one of ya had a young 'un who was researching that in The Netherlands. 

How about an update ?  

CAPTAIN'S LOG: 25th Great Chesapeake Bay Schooner Race of 2014 – A story of  the "new" schooners…

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4 hours ago, Fish said:

Just stating a fact KM, it takes all of 3 min to get your results. But of course if you do take some sort of personal responsibility and get your results, then you can't bitch about how hopeless the system is, ay?

PS, don't touch weeties, there is more energy in the milk that goes on them than the actual product, not to mention the tax dodging outfit that makes them.

No you are not stating a fact or anything like fact, you are only making assumptions and they are wrong.

For a start the calls take over 10min every time, this I know as I've made well over 20 of them probably closer to 30 of them, something you would have known if only you'd asked rather than launching straight into assumptions. Also not to my GP as he retired over 5 years ago so I don't have one, something you would have known if only you'd asked rather than launching straight into assumptions.

Need I continue ;)

Agree on the dodgy tax dodges. If region paid taxes just think of the good it could do rather than it's current helping sustain so much harm.

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3 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

Like the Dutch designed "schooners" that revolutionized modern sailing . . 

(large craft that could sail to weather like demons) 

"early 18th century: perhaps from dialect scun ‘skim along’, influenced by Dutch words . . " 

As I recall from a year or so ago, one of ya had a young 'un who was researching that in The Netherlands. 

How about an update ?  

CAPTAIN'S LOG: 25th Great Chesapeake Bay Schooner Race of 2014 – A story of  the "new" schooners…

What about the boat on the left.......it looks very much like my avatar......the Pride of Baltimore II.

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3 hours ago, It Got said:

No you are not stating a fact or anything like fact, you are only making assumptions and they are wrong.

For a start the calls take over 10min every time, this I know as I've made well over 20 of them probably closer to 30 of them, something you would have known if only you'd asked rather than launching straight into assumptions. Also not to my GP as he retired over 5 years ago so I don't have one, something you would have known if only you'd asked rather than launching straight into assumptions.

Need I continue ;)

Agree on the dodgy tax dodges. If region paid taxes just think of the good it could do rather than it's current helping sustain so much harm.

Facepalm!

I give up. You are right. I am wrong. 

There is no way I can compete with your superior logic...

Even if 10 min is shorter than 2 months, or 3 weeks.

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6 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

Like the Dutch designed "schooners" that revolutionized modern sailing . . 

(large craft that could sail to weather like demons) 

"early 18th century: perhaps from dialect scun ‘skim along’, influenced by Dutch words . . " 

As I recall from a year or so ago, one of ya had a young 'un who was researching that in The Netherlands. 

How about an update ?  

CAPTAIN'S LOG: 25th Great Chesapeake Bay Schooner Race of 2014 – A story of  the "new" schooners…

Best I can tell, schooner is an Americanism from 18th century to describe the fast ships that race around Cape Horn from east to west. 
 

there are lots of words in Dutch german and English that appear to be cognate with it, most notably the scot word ‘Scon’ “ to skip like stone”. But the best sources think it’s Most likely to have been derived from slang. It is first attested in New England literature. 
 

the Dutch word Schoener is confirmed as having been picked up from English so that is not the origin. 
 

nobody knows why the glass of beer is called a schooner but everyone accepts it’s a fine idea somewhat more sensible than the yard glass. 
 

I think this is very definitely thread drift as I know nothing sensible about COVID. 

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The Pride of Balmer (as the city is pronounced by locals) 2.0 (first one sunk tragically) 

is very well sailed - she took part in a War of 1812 re-enactment of which I played a small part. 

Here is a photo I took of her under sail. Like the Chasseur after which she is patterned, she is faster than she looks. 

(I am also sorry for the thread drift . . . sort of . . a little bit) 

Confessions of a Repentant War of 1812 Reenactor - OtherWords

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11 hours ago, Addem said:

I think this is very definitely thread drift as I know nothing sensible about COVID. 

Well, no one else around here knows anything sensible about covid... 

Sounds like the Auckland maritime cluster is well contained, and it is a very pleasant thread drift. A nice alternative to KM and I trying to make sense of each other (or squable, as some may view it)

Please do keep the thread drift going :-)

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AJO look what is in my workshop.

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A 1:24 scale radio controlled version of her, complete with twin drives with feathering propellers.

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Even the steering wheel works.

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The rigging is fun there will be 170 metres of running rigging heres the test rig to sort out the sheeting systems.

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3 hours ago, Fish said:

Sounds like the Auckland maritime cluster is well contained, and it is a very pleasant thread drift. A nice alternative to KM and I trying to make sense of each other (or squable, as some may view it)

Please do keep the thread drift going :-)

Not so much a squabble just a demonstration on how just working on the headlines and not sussing any of the back story can lead you down some wrong path. Fish is the 3rd in the last 10 days odd to make the same mistake but he has taken it way better than Rabobank did, they have to reported me to the Financial something or other authority as the banks 'Special Agent Sam' (that's all she would say her name was so I kept calling her Agent 99) refused to believe I have a better knowledge of Sperm than she does. This is going to be a lot of fun.

Agree, I'm liking the tread drift. I'm keen as to know where Sloop is planning on finding such a tiny crew for it.

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10 minutes ago, KM... said:

Not so much a squabble just a demonstration on

Well I've always looked at it as an intellectual game of chess, a reasoned debate and something that I enjoy, and thats not just because I'm always right ;-)

Its just that I think to others it may look like you and I are squabbling...

I hate to think how you have managed to upset your bank.

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6 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

The Pride of Balmer (as the city is pronounced by locals) 2.0 (first one sunk tragically) 

is very well sailed - she took part in a War of 1812 re-enactment of which I played a small part. 

Here is a photo I took of her under sail. Like the Chasseur after which she is patterned, she is faster than she looks. 

(I am also sorry for the thread drift . . . sort of . . a little bit) 

Confessions of a Repentant War of 1812 Reenactor - OtherWords

I get the fact that USAeans are a proud bunch, but that big flappy thing at the back must hurt up wind, not to mention rattling the dags of ship and crew?

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57 minutes ago, Fish said:

Well I've always looked at it as an intellectual game of chess, a reasoned debate and something that I enjoy, and thats not just because I'm always right ;-)

Its just that I think to others it may look like you and I are squabbling...

I hate to think how you have managed to upset your bank.

Hang on I'm googling intellectual. 

It's all to do with the anti money laundering and terrorist financing laws. It's very invasive and the questions very poorly qualified. I went against advice and answered them honestly. The question where it all went bad was "What do you intend to spend that money on?', we have a sum just sitting in Rabobank. I replied 'Sperm', she said 'What?', I said 'Sperm', she said 'What's that?', I said "Sorry I don't feel safe explaining that to a female in these days of #metto', is there a bloke I can explain it too?, she went septic. All she should have done is ask 'Why Sperm?'.

Oh and I said I have dealings with Iran and Iraq, that seemed to be the wrong thing to say as well. But again a simple question would have sorted that, maybe this one 'Why do you have dealings there?' to which they would have been told 'I have mates who I ride motorbikes with'.

But no one asked and just assumed instead so here we are. I'm looking forward to chatting with the men in black.

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9 minutes ago, 44forty said:

Might find some crew in small talk 

:)

First Addem and now you, this thread is rocking some fantastic one liners

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